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October 11, 2013 at 2:57 am #215107Knave Of HeartsParticipant
I actually preferred this to the pilot of Once. Once was still in it’s figuring out how to do this stage, and had some issues. Wonderland knew what it was going for and went for it.
Yes, the CGI was excessive, but it didn’t take me out of the story.
Love the characters so far. Alice is badass, Knave is snarky as hell( like me 😛 ) White Rabbit seems to be a bit sneaky and it’s hard to tell if he really does want to help Alice. Red Queen had some cool moments, and Jafar for the brief scene we got him in was awesome and sinister.
I don’t really have any negatives to say other than maybe a little overuse of the CGI but it’s not bad enough to diminish my enjoyment of the show.
9.0/10
[adrotate group="5"]October 11, 2013 at 5:59 am #215109PheeParticipantJust re-watched, and liked RQ a bit more this time. In the scene with Jafar, it’s actually a bit unnerving how quickly she can go from being choked with tears in her eyes, to being calm and composed and putting him in his place. She’s got a very different demeanour to the Evil Queen we’re used to. RQ is far more reserved, and I dare say, more calculating than Regina. RQ is taking the time to “set up the board”, but Regina just reacts and goes in all guns blazing. So I think this new style of Queen might take a bit of getting used to, but I think I’m gonna like her a lot.
The only CGI shot that really made me cringe was the final shot where it swoops in on Alive, Knave and WR, walking along the path. RQ’s castle also looked really CGI, but that castle has such a cool design that I didn’t mind it looked kinda fake. It’s weird how they can be so dead on with some of the CGI, like the Rabbit, and the Caterpillar, but still manage to make the scenery shots look fake.
Love Cheshire’s line, “I’m stranger, you’re stranger, together we are…strangers.”
Tiny little Knave thing I loved was his cheesy little grin right after he was all, “Can we focus on the bit where I came back to save your life?” Standing there with the stolen shoes slung over his shoulder, stolen wishes in his pocket, and a sweet little smile. I like that Alice doesn’t take his crap. They’re fun together. I also loved how when she was kicking butt and snapping necks in the asylum, he stood back with a little grin, all, “That’s my girl,” and he didn’t bother getting involved in the fight because he knew she could totally take care of herself. I get a sibling vibe from them, but half of tumblr is already shipping them.
October 11, 2013 at 7:10 am #215116kfchimeraParticipantI will have to rethink RQ, interesting insight Phee.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 11, 2013 at 8:47 am #215120PheeParticipantThis is how Lewis Carroll describes QoH vs RQ…
I pictured to myself the Queen of Hearts as a sort of embodiment of ungovernable passion – a blind and aimless Fury.
The Red Queen I pictured as a Fury, but of another type; her passion must be cold and calm – she must be formal and strict, yet not unkindly; pedantic to the 10th degree, the concentrated essence of all governesses!Cold, calm, formal, strict, I’d say all fit with what we’ve seen of our RQ so far. Imagine Regina in that clifftop scene instead. She’d have strutted up in front of her knights, given a speech about how she was gonna destroy their love, then hurled a fireball at Cyrus’ head to make him fall. RQ stood back and let her knights do the heavy lifting, and only when they failed did she give a little flick of her wrist with an, “Oops.” Both approaches get the job done, so they’re just as dangerous as each other, but they have completely different styles.
October 11, 2013 at 9:04 am #215126RumplesGirlKeymasterJust re-watched, and liked RQ a bit more this time. In the scene with Jafar, it’s actually a bit unnerving how quickly she can go from being choked with tears in her eyes, to being calm and composed and putting him in his place. She’s got a very different demeanour to the Evil Queen we’re used to. RQ is far more reserved, and I dare say, more calculating than Regina. RQ is taking the time to “set up the board”, but Regina just reacts and goes in all guns blazing. So I think this new style of Queen might take a bit of getting used to, but I think I’m gonna like her a lot.
The RQ is just how I could want a chess player: cold calculating and clinical. (Though I agree with you, girl needs some bright red lips)
Love Cheshire’s line, “I’m stranger, you’re stranger, together we are…strangers.”
I really wanna know why food is vanishing from WL. Cheshire says that everything is different in WL since Alice last left (a year ago). Why?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 11, 2013 at 12:19 pm #215186darkones1fanParticipantFavorite
JAFAR! OMG MY FAVORITE DISNEY VILLAIN IN ONCE HURRAY!
Storybrooke appearance. See this is how you do a spinoff right you do your own thing but every now and then bring in elements from the original show to see how it ties in.
Knave of Hearts if funny
Alice rocks!
Jafar
Chesirecat scary
Jafar
Mysterious story plot.
oh and did say Jafar
Didn’t like
So….If Alice lives in Victorian England how does Knave live in modern Storybrooke….I’m confused. Does the Rabbit travel though time and space or something.
October 11, 2013 at 12:28 pm #215188RumplesGirlKeymasterSo….If Alice lives in Victorian England how does Knave live in modern Storybrooke….I’m confused. Does the Rabbit travel though time and space or something.
It’s not Victorian England. It’s fictional England.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 11, 2013 at 12:36 pm #215190darkones1fanParticipantOh…I was confused got it. Someone needs to clarify that.
October 11, 2013 at 11:00 pm #215278GaultheriaParticipantLike:
The red queen has her own version of the evil queen chime.Dislike:
Dialogue masked at times by sound effects and music.Just sayin’:
Hey, Cheshire, watch where you put that paw.Gaultheria's fanvids: http://youtube.com/sagethrasher
October 12, 2013 at 9:33 pm #215461sacrlcParticipantBest:
Jafar delightfully nefarious
Alice resourceful, delightful and can kicks ass
the chess castle
the white rabbit
the white rabbits holes – portals?
the ruby wishes
tie in with the Mad Hatter (alas, no Jefferson)Worst
The gloomy admosphere that permerated most of the episode.
The red queen – kinda bland and too much botox in her lips (not everybody can be Angelina Jolie). I would like to have seen more of a wicked impertinence.
Too much cgi – looks more like a live action cartoon.I’m going to give it one more try, but if it doesn’t start to lighten up a bit, I’m out.
Don't grow up. It's a trap.
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