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November 8, 2013 at 9:43 am #222176obisgirlParticipant
I still think ABC will let ONCEWL play out, given some rather large casting announcements like Whoopi.
I hope so.
[adrotate group="5"]November 8, 2013 at 12:10 pm #222218RumplesGirlKeymasterNumbers are in
0.9 ratings share and 3.54 million live viewers.
OUCH but hopefully ABC lets it play out?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 8, 2013 at 1:56 pm #222255PriceofMagicParticipantThe break between episodes 3 and 4 did not help. Wonderland hasn’t immediately grabbed the audience like Once did. Perhaps if this episode had happened before the break, ratings would’ve been higher.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNovember 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm #222281MatthewPaulModeratorThe break between episodes 3 and 4 did not help. Wonderland hasn’t immediately grabbed the audience like Once did. Perhaps if this episode had happened before the break, ratings would’ve been higher.
Blame ABC pre-empting it to air “It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown”, which they insisted on airing because it was Halloween. It did way better than Wonderland did, by the way.
November 8, 2013 at 9:11 pm #222358darkones1fanParticipantLets hope ABC is more forgiving then other studios. Thank goodness WL isn’t on cartoon network (Which would be weird to start with since i’ts not a cartoon) But they are notorious for cancelling shows prematurely. Even they’re really good ones Thundercats 2011, Batman 2013, great shows…I miss them.
Also people remember even Star Trek The Next Generation or even M*A*S*H both shows that are world renowned now a days had a extremely rocky first season. MASH was once said that it wouldn’t last. Then 11 seasons later…. Anyway for those who are scared find shows that had extremely rocky first seasons but managed to last for a long time and becomes hits perhaps that will give you some hope.
So hopefully the studio execs will give the show a fair chance… perhaps change the times too (That could help perhaps. ) and then the show will gain a footing.
November 9, 2013 at 8:07 pm #222575obisgirlParticipantI know Adam and Eddie have said they only have story for one season, there’s a definitive beginning, middle and end. Hopefully, they get a chance to tell what that story is.
I know the ratings aren’t very good but the upside, the show is nominated for a People’s Choice for Favorite New Drama. (Shameless plug, I know), but it has to help somewhat.
November 9, 2013 at 9:45 pm #222590darkones1fanParticipantI know Adam and Eddie have said they only have story for one season, there’s a definitive beginning, middle and end. Hopefully, they get a chance to tell what that story is. I know the ratings aren’t very good but the upside, the show is nominated for a People’s Choice for Favorite New Drama. (Shameless plug, I know), but it has to help somewhat.
Well that’s good as long as we got some sort of satisfying conclusion.
November 11, 2013 at 10:59 am #222936obisgirlParticipantNumber of Episodes at the End of the Season: 13-18
Syndication: No
Production Company: ABC
Ratings Average: 1.00 (50%)
Wonderland had a bad premiere and had even more terrible weeks afterwards. It does have a hard timeslot but that will not be enough to save it with ratings at almost half of its comparable average. I have seen many people arguing for a Sunday tryout at 9pm, but unless they do that while taking Revenge out of Sundays, I see no upside for that at all. I seriously doubt the show could pull anything better than the mid1s that Revenge is pulling on the slot, even with OUAT as its lead-in. Remember: OUAT is not the show it used to be either ratings wise and it is not like OUAT fans don’t know the show is out there either. Although it was poorly sampled, the week 2 higher than average drop suggest a rejection of what was seen that is unlikely to change even if exposed to the mothership lead-in. I am definitely strongly against an arrangement that involves OUAT-Wonderland-Revenge, because that would harm Revenge too much and not really make a meaningful difference with Wonderland IMO, so I think in this case they should stay put and let this one play out its order and get out. I think that’s what they will do anyway. Regardless, the show will be cancelled.Ratings Analysis of ABC Dramas
I hope he’s wrong. If ABC does cancel, I hope they let Adam & Eddie tell the full story they want to tell. Let the series run its course and then decide whether to pick-up or renew. Or, if they do renew, put it on a different night and time.
November 15, 2013 at 9:45 am #224023kranenParticipantFirst piece of ratings news for ‘Heart of Stone’.
I know that the code will screw up so give me 5 or so minutes to fix it.Metered Market Thursday Ratings
CBS Down but Still Dominant; NBC an Embarrassment
Thursday 11/14/13
Metered Market Results
Household
Rating/Share
CBS 6.8/11
ABC 5.1/ 9
Fox 3.4/ 6
NBC 2.3/ 4
CW 1.6/ 3
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Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Thursday 11/15/12:
ABC: no change, CW: – 6, NBC: -15, CBS: -23, Fox: -28
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Winners:
“The Big Bang Theory” (CBS), “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC), “Scandal” (ABC)
Disappointing:
“The Millers” (CBS)
“The X Factor” (Fox)
Losers (excluding repeats):
“Once Upon a Time in Wonderland” (ABC), “Parks and Recreation” (NBC), “Sean Saves the World” (NBC), “The Michael J. Fox Show” (NBC), “Glee” (Fox), “Parenthood”
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Ratings Breakdown:
It was another Thursday overnight household victory for CBS thanks to “The Big Bang Theory,” which topped the night at 8 p.m. with an 11.5 rating/19 share. Comparably, that was three percent above the 11.2/18 on the year-ago evening. But lead-out “The Millers” slipped to a still dominant 6.8/11 at 8:30 p.m., which was 23 percent below year-ago occupant “Two and a Half Men” (8.8/14 on 11/15/12). And retention for “The Millers” out of “The Big Bang Theory” was only 59 percent (versus 79 percent for “Two and a Half Men” out of Sheldon, Leonard and company one year earlier). With weaker lead-in support, recent entry “The Crazy Ones” and relocated “Two and a Half Men” from 9-10 p.m. were down by 40 percent, on average, from year-ago occupant “Person of Interest” (9.3/15 on 11/15/12) in the overnights.
“The Crazy Ones,” featuring guest star Brad Garrett, finished second at 9 p.m. with a 5.4/ 9, which was 21 percent below lead-in “The Millers.” And “Two and a Half Men,” featuring a cameo by “Survivor” host Jeff Probst, followed with a 5.8/ 9 (#2) at 9:30 p.m., which was 34 percent below its year-ago telecast (out of “The Big Bang Theory”). While not a bust, CBS’ expanded Thursday 8-10 p.m. comedy block is still lacking.
At 10 p.m. on the Eye net was sophomore “Elementary” at a second-place 5.7/10, which was 20 percent below the 7.1/12 one year earlier.
On NBC, two episodes of sitcom “Parks and Recreation” returned after a three-week absence with an uneventful (and fourth-place) 2.3/ 4 at 8 p.m. and a 2.2/ 4 at 8:30 p.m. Minus the lead-in support from “The Voice” from 8-9 p.m. last week, “Sean Saves the World” slipped from a 3.3/ 5 to a 2.3/ 4 (#4) at 9 p.m., with “The Michael J. Fox Show” at a 2.1/ 3 at 9:30 p.m. In the very distant third-place spot at 10 p.m. was drama “Parenthood” at a 2.6/ 5. Note to NBC: this is a disaster and the upcoming return of sitcom “Community” is unlikely to help.
Over at second-place ABC, struggling “Once Upon a Time in Wonderland” matched its week-ago overnight performance, with a distant third-place 2.6/ 4 at 8 p.m. But veteran “Grey’s Anatomy” perked up to a dominant 6.1/10 from 9-10 p.m., followed by “Scandal,” also from Shonda Rhimes, at a first-place 6.5/12 at 10 p.m. Year-to-year, “Scandal” increased by 38 percent.
Elsewhere, fading “The X Factor” on Fox finished a very distant second in the 8 p.m. hour with a 3.9/ 6, which was 29 percent below the year-ago evening (5.5/ 9 on 11/15/12). And that led into a third-place 3.0/ 5 for tired “Glee” at 9 p.m., which slipped by 21 percent year-to-year. Although Fox will be boasting later today about the week-to-week growth for “The X Factor,” don’t forget that it faced “The Voice” on NBC last week.
The CW, meanwhile, featured “The Vampire Diaries” at a 1.8/ 3 (#5) at 8 p.m., followed by episode five of full season-renewed “Reign” at a 1.4/ 2 (#5) at 9 p.m., which was 17 percent above year-ago occupant “Beauty and the Beast” (1.2/ 2 on 11/15/12). Retention of 78 percent for “Reign” out of “The Vampire Diaries” last night was notably better than the 57 percent for “Beauty and the Beauty” in the time period last year.
November 15, 2013 at 11:40 am #224106RumplesGirlKeymasterRatings overall are in for “Heart of Stone”
We stayed the same in our ratings share (0.9) and had 3.7miilion live views. Glad we didn’t loose anything but still…OUCH
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