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June 14, 2013 at 12:20 am #198295
WickedRegal
Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
Ok, can someone please verify with the writers who the Core Group really is on twitter so we can stop this repeat question? ❓
To me is Snow, PC, Emma, Henry, Regina and Rumble
Regulars are Belle and Bae as there were writtern articles on both of them saying they are Regulars, like what Red and the Cricket are.
I forgot to include henry, I thought it was just Emma, Regina, David, Snow, and Rumple! I also agree there being on the difference from core and regulars.
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June 14, 2013 at 12:36 am #198297MysteryKat25
ParticipantPersonally I want to love whatever love stories they throw at us, whether they become my favorites or not. I think y the end each will get its due and we’ll learn to love every option (and that every person hurt in a triangle will find someone they’re suited for too).
As I said somewhere else a moment ago, sometimes good (or not so good) things fall apart so that better things will fall together (I can’t remember if that’s a quote or a paraphrase, I should go look that up and edit it afterwards). We wouldn’t have RumBelle if Rumple and Milah hadn’t split up so not every aspect of that triangle was bad (I still hate Milah though) and I’m sure if somebody does get their heart actually broken in a full on Hook/Emma/Neal triangle, then whoever is left over will find true love elsewhere too, just like I think Mulan will and Kathryn/Abigail did with Frederick.
They have heavily heavily heavily teased the triangle but I don’t recall if they ever specifically said “there will be a triangle.” Most of the time their answers to questions are better heard/seen than read because it’s easy to misinterpret but it has been heavily teased, even before the whole Neal is “dead” thing. Lately they’ve been playing up the fact that Emma & Hook will be on the ship together and they think Neal is dead, but the focus right now for everyone is HENRY. I think Emma will be torn after they’re all reunited because I do think she will get very close to Hook but her focus at this time is rescuing Henry.
There is a difference between regular and core cast members *sometimes.* Last season for instance, Red was a “regular” but she was just “regularly” seen in the background. She was not front and center for very much of the time. So I get the distinction, I do.
That being said, Belle & Bae are both vital pieces right now. H&K have said repeatedly that they will not be ignoring them and they both connect back to Rumple and are therefore very important. They keep saying that we will be seeing Belle in SB and Neal in FTL and we’re not just ignoring them because of the people on the ship.
The people on Hook’s ship are core for sure, as it is the original core cast + Hook. That does not mean that over time, the core characters have not expanded somewhat. Bae is Henry’s father and Rumple’s son and is the entire reason for the curse. Just because he wasn’t introduced / made a regular until recently doesn’t mean he isn’t important to the core of the show. In fact without him, we wouldn’t have a show. The motivation behind people like Rumple being on the ship (with his enemy I might add) is to honor Bae and rescue Bae’s son. Likewise Belle is in SB but she is our connection to the chance of the people on the ship finding a way back and is also a very powerful, compelling reason for Rumple TO find a way back.
If the people on the ship only needed the people on the ship and nobody else ever, they would not put such importance on what is going on with Bae and Belle. They are just as important and the other main characters in the respective worlds they are currently in – Bae is our tie to FTL with MAP by his side, and Belle is our main tie to SB.
Whether you love the characters or not, they are certainly important to the story and if the reason for the curse isn’t core to it I don’t know what is. In that case we may as well say that Snow isn’t important even though she was a catalyst for Regina to enact Rumple’s curse.
What it boils down to is that everyone of these people is important. This is not the Snow White show, it is Once Upon A Time and deals with a lot of fairy tale stories. Snow & her prince and daughter and grandson may be super important characters on the show, but there are a couple of others that are vital as well. Whether everyone loves those people isn’t the point, nor does it diminish the idea that they are core members and vital to the plot.
With how much they’ve said they’re not forgetting about Bae and Belle, I really feel like for S3 all the regulars are considered core. That wasn’t the case last year so I understand wanting to question it, especially if there’s a lot of hatred toward a specific character and wanting them gone, but they have said repeatedly that Bae & Belle are both important so I think for S3, all of them are core and vital. Just because you don’t want there to be an important connection between characters doesn’t mean they stop existing or being integral to the plot. Sometimes we just have to be annoyed by those we don’t like while others fawn over them but that is no reason to constantly bash them or reduce their role without reason, especially when the creators tell us they will definitely be important in the upcoming stories to be told.
Getting kinda tired of constantly trying to defend characters over and over and over again. Can’t wait for new news so we have something to actually debate rather than the importance of a character that is well-liked and we’ve been told will be important and is sticking around whether people like it or not.
I think the forums being rennovated will be a good break for hiatus-fever as we’re going around in circles and getting nowhere fast. Can’t wait to see what happens, chomping at the bit for S3 and for news about what’s to come!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
June 14, 2013 at 1:34 am #198308RumplesGirl
KeymasterI can’t even begin to express how tired I am of this debate. Every time someone calls Belle and Bae “core” instantly a fight breaks out. So how about this: we agree to disagree and leave this alone forever because this is not a fun debate. This is not theorizing. This is just…irksome, to be perfectly honest. For all parties.
If you don’t think regulars also = core, fine. Personally, I see no difference. They are two terms that are equal but mean different things. Regular is in regards to the type of contract they have with the show, meaning they have to appear in a certain number of episodes per season. Core is how much they contribute to the story. Baelfire is the entire reason for the show, he is Henry’s father, a potential suitor for Emma, and the son of Rumple, so I consider him core. Belle is the TL of one of the main characters, is Henry’s future grandmother, a friend of the family, and has her own storylines. Thus, I consider her core. They are all regulars (MRJ becoming regular for S3), there is no debate about that.But, mostly I want to get back to the actual show and plot points, not trying to defend a characters status. They are all loved by Adam and Eddy. They are all going to be playing a major role in S3 and beyond. They are all important–to the show and to the fans.
Agreed?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 14, 2013 at 3:53 am #198331Josephine
ParticipantWell said, RG! At this point, it’s just nitpicking and semantics. The real proof will be when show comes back and we see what actually occurs on screen. Right now it’s hard to take anything the writers say seriously because last year’s comments were often way off of what actually occurred. It’s just a waiting game now. Plans change and writers go off on tangents they never planned for. The stories take on their own lives and what they originally had on the table might no longer be an option.
Heck, if we had the series the way it was originally intended then Mary Margret would have been a nun and Prince Charming would have died in the pilot. Glad to see that they changed their minds once they got into the show. It’s funny because the original press releases of the show list Ginny’s character as “Sister Mary Margaret”. It was actually the second episode before I realized that they’d changed their minds and MM wasn’t a nun any longer. I remember people posting on TVLine asking the same question, wonder if she was or not. Like I said, I’m happy the storyline changed. Kind of hard to be rooting for Snowing babies when one character is a nun and the other is dead. 😆
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
June 14, 2013 at 4:30 am #198336betsypaige24
ParticipantHere’s more from Adam and Eddy
God, the Dark One is NOT Gold’s core character…….I really am starting to dislike Eddy; actually, I’m mostly there. He always says these things that drive me up a wall.. Gold’s core character is Rumple, the man in Manhattan……. he’s cursed and yes he’s been the DO, but that is not who he is. Ugh, Eddy…..
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Season3-Spoilers-Kitsis-Horowitz-1066624.aspx
June 14, 2013 at 4:52 am #198339lostwithme
Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I can’t even begin to express how tired I am of this debate. Every time someone calls Belle and Bae “core” instantly a fight breaks out. So how about this: we agree to disagree and leave this alone forever because this is not a fun debate. This is not theorizing. This is just…irksome, to be perfectly honest. For all parties.
It’s really only coming from the same person all the time. Someone who gets angry any time anyone discusses Belle or Rumbelle here. Even trying to say over and over that we won’t see SB at all until the group leaves NL, even though the producers say we will in every single interview. I think they’re just trying to antagonize us, lol.
Anyway, Adam said Neal and Belle are part of the core group:
“At the end of season 2, we’ve placed our core group in a very difficult situation. Some of them are on the boat; some of them are behind in Storybrooke; some of them are in another land.”
So he’s saying the entire main cast are the core group. Meaning the guest stars aren’t. I’d say within that core group are the 4 big main characters – Snow, Emma, Regina, and Rumple. I don’t really see Charming as one any more, with the way they use him and they didn’t even give him his own centric in S2. Though I’m happy to hear we’re getting more of his backstory next season.
June 14, 2013 at 12:04 pm #198353HappyEndings
Spectator@WickedRegal wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
Ok, can someone please verify with the writers who the Core Group really is on twitter so we can stop this repeat question? ❓
To me is Snow, PC, Emma, Henry, Regina and Rumble
Regulars are Belle and Bae as there were writtern articles on both of them saying they are Regulars, like what Red and the Cricket are.
I forgot to include henry, I thought it was just Emma, Regina, David, Snow, and Rumple! I also agree there being on the difference from core and regulars.
Thank you!!!! 😛
June 14, 2013 at 1:41 pm #198358RumplesGirl
KeymasterThe link BetsyPaige posted has been given its own thread, so please discuss that article over there: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=4301
Thanks everyone.
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