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June 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm #197987RumplesGirlKeymaster
In my head the entire cast doesn’t go back to FTL until S5 but I’m totally down with the baddie being Morgana if that happens.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 12, 2013 at 5:57 pm #198072SirMedrautParticipant@Josephine wrote:
Who would be Mad Madam Mim?
No one, I’d hope. Mim isn’t a character from legend or folklore, she was an invention of T.H. White’s (the author of The Sword in the Stone) who isn’t even in many editions of the novel, as the wizard’s duel segment was cut in various revisions of the book. Sure, she’s in the Disney film, but I for one feel that if any Arthurian figure is to be Merlin’s nemesis, it ought to be a traditional one like Morgan le Fay, not a character who has barely been around for a century.
Morgan (ideally played by Natalie Dormer or Lara Pulver, but I’ll take whatever I can get) is the single character I’d most like to see on the show with potential to be the most complex villain the show has yet portrayed, given that after everything she does against her brother in various versions of the legend she still typically saves Arthur’s life after the Battle of Camlann and carries him away to Avalon to heal. Here’s hoping they delve further into Arthuriana at some point! Wasn’t there one of those quick Q&A things once during the early part of S2 where they said if they didn’t get to do Arthur & Guinevere that season, they definitely would like to at some point? Where Arthur and Guinevere come, a vengeful half-sister and a snarky sorcerer are sure to follow…
As an aside, though, if they follow the recent trend of making screen adaptations of Morgan related to Arthur through his father and not their mother just so she can have a claim to his throne, I might scream.
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I have mixed feelings about visiting Arthurian legend. I think they could do great things with Merlin, but the romance of the legend isn’t the stuff of True Love. Guinevere’s and Lancelot’s affair and Lancelot’s subsequent banishment. It’s just a situation where nobody has a happy ending. Although, maybe they could switch it up and do a story about adultery and forgiveness, unlike the glossing over they did with Cursed Snow and David.
I think exploring the Arwencelot triangle might be a brilliant idea – true, it doesn’t have a happy ending, but in some iterations of the legend (and you can probably be sure they’d go this route), it IS true love, on all sides. That’s part of the tragedy – that Arthur loves Guinevere, but also loves Lancelot as a brother, and Lancelot loves Guinevere, but loves Arthur as a brother, and Guinevere loves both of them. Sure, there are versions where she never loves Arthur and their marriage is a political one of convenience, but haven’t they mentioned wanting to explore the idea of someone being able to have more than one true love? Perfect way to do it, in my opinion.
Keeper of Zelena's witch hat and the Black Fairy's wand.
June 12, 2013 at 6:58 pm #198090JosephineParticipantI was only joking about Mad Madam Mim. Although with Rumple’s frazzled hair and his tendency to sometimes act like a five year old he could fit the role.
Delving deeper into the Arthurian legend, Lancelot wasn’t even a part of it until after the crusades. He’s one of the newer additions to the storyline. The earliest accounts of Arthur paint him in a different light. It’s interesting to see how the legend of Arthur changed through the centuries with the writings. But I don’t think they’re going to go that deep into the King Arthur legend. They’ll go with what is familiar to everyone and most people can remember Arthur/Guinevere/Lancelot.
Who knows how Disneyfied some of the stories to be told will be. We’ve seen they do keep elements of Disney, some of Perrault or Grimm, and make up their own versions. That’s why I’m hoping they keep some elements of the original Little Mermaid in the show. Have Ariel and Eric, but I want her to not get her happy ending and follow the book. It seems more dramatic and open to more storylines than if Ariel and Eric are true love but separated like our other couples. But that might be part my dislike as child of Eric talking or my current Hookriel fascination.
Whatever they have planned for us in the future I’m sure we’ll be surprised. 🙂
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
June 12, 2013 at 7:55 pm #198106HappyEndingsSpectatorThought I would throw this out for the fun of it: New Mayor photo shoot.
https://twitter.com/TheReelBeverley/status/344681042172600320/photo/1
June 12, 2013 at 8:12 pm #198109RumplesGirlKeymasterI would totally vote for her.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 12, 2013 at 8:24 pm #198118lostwithmeParticipantFrom the http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/once-upon-a-time-season-3_n_3426285.html.
More at the source, but nothing new.On how Season 3 will begin:
Horowitz: It’s pretty much a direct pickup … What you saw at the end of the finale is a jumping off point: Some characters are on the boat, some characters are in Storybrooke. [The beginning of Season 3 focuses on] what they’re facing and how they’re going to deal with new challenges, particularly having a lot of our hero characters and our villain characters forced to work together.
Kitsis: The major difference is that there are characters who are separated, but for us, what’s interesting is that you see this motley crew on this ship and you wonder how they’re going to work together. You’ve got that core dysfunctional family on the ship heading to Neverland to get back Henry — so they’re separated in a different way.
Horowitz: We have characters left behind in Storybrooke, like Belle and those folks, and what they’re going through, so we’ve hopefully created a situation where the dramatic stakes are heightened, but they allow us to delve deeper into each of the characters and use the next season to really go into how they’re going to react to these new situations.June 12, 2013 at 8:28 pm #198119HappyEndingsSpectatorJune 12, 2013 at 8:46 pm #198122lostwithmeParticipantIt will be interesting to see who steps up and into which roles in SB. Their sheriffs, mayor, and leaders are all gone. I could see Belle being the leader(Jane Espenson said she’s in charge of SB), Granny being the mayor, and I’m not quite sure about the sheriff. I saw some people think it should be Grumpy.
June 12, 2013 at 8:51 pm #198123RumplesGirlKeymasterGrumpy makes the most sense as sheriff. He was head of Snow’s personal guard in FTL.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 12, 2013 at 9:00 pm #198125HappyEndingsSpectator@RumplesGirl wrote:
Grumpy makes the most sense as sheriff. He was head of Snow’s personal guard in FTL.
Or Red
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