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I’m sure some of you are aware of my crack theory a while back that somehow Lilly is the spawn of Regina and Robin Hood. The main wrench in that theory was how that would even be possible, timeline wise. Well, it dawned on me: parallel universe. We saw an alternate page of the book that showed Regina and Robin meeting at the tavern. What if that event actually DID happen, but just in a parallel universe? And in said parallel universe, Regina and Robin eventually gave birth to Lilly.
Regina and Robin meeting back then would have meant the following:
1) Regina likely would have given up her lust for revenge against Snow.
2) As a result, Snow and Charming probably would have never met.
3) Regina wouldn’t have cast the curse.However, Rumple still would have found somebody else to cast the curse in Regina’s place. Who that other person would have been, I can’t say. I doubt Zelena, since there still would have been the issue of Rumple being the thing she loves most. Anyway, in this reality, Lilly would have been sent to our world instead of Emma. How Lilly ended up in the same world as Emma, though, is another question in itself. Maybe there’s only one Land Without Magic, but different universes from each world can cross over to it? This is a fairly complicated theory with kinks needed to be worked out, but I felt it was worth sharing. Plus knowing this show, some of this could very well happen.
[adrotate group="5"]I’m all for this theory!
BUT…instead of an alternate universe, I think Regina and Robin actually met in the tavern, fell in love, ran off, married, and started a family hence Lily. However, because of a certain event, you know the first thing to come to a King’s mind about his wife disappearing, and seen by a well known thief would be that Robin kidnapped Regina, thus putting his life in danger. Knowing that too much was at stake, Regina went back to Rumplestilskin or probably met the Sorcerer himself to do what Gerta did, erase the entire realm’s memories of the event. Hence altering the original course of the book, which is how we got two different pages. And then Regina gave Lillian to the Sorcerer to give her daughter her best chance, and the Sorcerer sent young Lillian to this world, with the star mark so that one day Regina would know her daughter just as she knew her soul mate by the lion tattoo.
The Age Issue doesn’t really matter…Ingrid was forty when she was unsealed out of the Urn, and came to this world before the curse was even cast. 34 years later, and Ingrid still looks like she’s still in her forties. Perhaps it’s the Sorcerer’s magic that keeps them frozen in time until their mission begins. Lillian’s mission…one day restore her mother’s happy ending.
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I like this theory. It goes along with the whole “Evil isn’t born, dearie. Its made.” thing. Had situations happened differently, Regina would have been the hero instead of the villain.
. I doubt Zelena, since there still would have been the issue of Rumple being the thing she loves most
According to Rump’s seer power it would have been Cora’s first born daughter to cast the curse, whom he thought was Regina but turned out to be Z, but he chose Regina instead. I think if Regina were out of the question, Rump could have manipulated events to cause Zelena to love someone else, maybe even got Cora to accept Zelena after Regina ran off with a thief. Zelena gets her mother, loves her, then sacrifices her like Regina did to her father in order to curse Regina. Or someone else. And Regina’s babe is the savior.
Maybe there’s only one Land Without Magic
Jefferson said some lands have magic and some lands dont,so I think there are other magic-less lands. I personally dont believe the land without magic is “our” world and made a whole theory post about it but thats another story.
However, because of a certain event, you know the first thing to come to a King’s mind about his wife disappearing, and seen by a well known thief would be that Robin kidnapped Regina, thus putting his life in danger
Didn’t Robin kidnap Marian in the original story. Or something? Hmmm…
And then Regina gave Lillian to the Sorcerer to give her daughter her best chance, and the Sorcerer sent young Lillian to this world, with the star mark so that one day Regina would know her daughter just as she knew her soul mate by the lion tattoo
That actually sounds really good ._. If it does happen, any of it, I hope A&E write it wel. A lot of people would be confused by alternate timeleines or re-written pasts, etc.
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Two things: Regina was still married to Leopold when she almost met Robin. (Apparently Tink didn’t mind that it would be adulterous either.)
Secondly…Rewatched Lacey last night. I know it was a different actor, but when they first made the switch it wasn’t so hard for me to buy that they were the same man; now it’s positively jarring because he really feels like a different character altogether. That aside, the Sheriff of Nottingham said that Robin “stole his love” from him, meaning Marian. (Which makes a delicious parallel to how Belle/Rumple describe what Hook did with Milah.)
They never told us if Keith survived his beating, but I’d really really love if they’d bring him back in to wrap up Marian’s side of the OQ story, whatever happens.
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I love this theory!
It’s way better than what the show is probably intending to do, which is never to mention her again because it was only a way to parallel the Emma/Regina thing and force the snow queen into Emma’s history.
You know what I can't continue with the dead people brought back to life list I'm out of space in the signature and now we have an underworld arc this is to much I quit why do you bring so many people back to life OUAT WHHHYYYY
That’s a really interesting theory, and I like the idea of only one land without magic, and that different parallel worlds go to the same one.
But then I wonder, where did the other dark curse send the people from the alternate enchanted forest? Why weren’t they sent to the same world as Lily?
I could say something went wrong, but there can’t be multiple storybrooks all in the same place.
Ohh, what if there is another town like storybrook, somewhere else in the word?!? With all the alternate FTL people? 😮
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Love the theory! I’m all for Lilly being Regina and Robin’s daughter.
The alternate picture of Robin and Regina actually meeting in the tavern is something big, at least, i think it’s big.
I, too, believe that it actually happened, and that the story/history we know from previous seasons may be the product of magic – like messing with people’s memories or cursing people to make them have certain memories or personalities… like a curse that insured Regina would be evil.
I don’t know how the alternate storybook page fits into everything, but I think it actually happened. It could very well be that it was just meant to be a ray of hope for Regina from the author about making your own destiny, but i think there is more to it. Maybe an alternate reality, considering that there are hundreds of blank book in the author’s mansion.
I admit, I don’t really want to see alternate realities or flash sideways, because that would be too much like LOST. What i’d like to see is that Regina isn’t as responsible for her decisions as we think. After she met Robin in the tavern, maybe Rumple or the Sorcerer/author, intervened by setting Regina down her path of destruction, altering Regina’s memory and helping to make her the evil queen.
What i’d like to see is that Regina isn’t as responsible for her decisions as we think.
I disagree. I think it would be a bit of a major cop out if the writers pulled the “It wasn’t Regina’s fault” card. Not only does it takes away her culpability, but it also diminishes her redemption and character growth. Turning Regina into a “poor little victim” for her entire life is a huge disservice to the character.
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Keeper of FelixWhat i’d like to see is that Regina isn’t as responsible for her decisions as we think.
I disagree. I think it would be a bit of a major cop out if the writers pulled the “It wasn’t Regina’s fault” card. Not only does it takes away her culpability, but it also diminishes her redemption and character growth. Turning Regina into a “poor little victim” for her entire life is a huge disservice to the character.
Regina is probably my favorite character. Regardless of how much i like her, and her story of redemption, there is NO TRUE REDEMPTION for Regina. The only redemption for a person who slaughtered entire villages and ruined countless lives (all for the purpose of killing one girl) is death. She would have to die for a noble cause. The amount of dead bodies stacked at Regina’s feet is nothing less than genocide. Hitler had human qualities too, but what redemption could there ever be for Hitler?
I really don’t want Regina to die. I’d like to see her get a happy ending, but it almost seems unfair that Regina gets a happy ending when she’s taken so many away. There’s a reason villains don’t get happy endings. Has Regina done enough good deeds to erase her evil? Hardly.
So part of me feels like the only way Regina could be deserving of a happy ending would be finding out that she was less responsible for her actions than we realized.
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