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Paradoxes, Paradoxes what has been missed?

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Three › 3×22 “There’s No Place Like Home” › Paradoxes, Paradoxes what has been missed?

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  • May 12, 2014 at 12:35 am #268666
    Amdillae
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    Ok, so basically ‘don’t change the past’ is the motto of the episodes, at least as far our main characters are concerned, but there are a few people who might still have created ripples.

     

    1. Belle has seen Emma and Hook (I am assuming that a forgetting potion will have taken care of that)

    2. The guards, how many guards were injured or killed in these two ep?  How many people could have now not been punished by these guards;  if the guards were killed who was taken up to replace them?

     

    Can anyone else think of some other potential paradoxes that have been left unresolved during the episodes?

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    “The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap and much more difficult to find.” - Terry Pratchett

    May 12, 2014 at 1:40 am #268697
    Crystal Princess
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    I think timelines generally like to sort themselves out as much as possible, especially in a magical land.

    I mean if you want to get really technical, running time over there’s no guarantee the same thing will happen even if you do nothing, since we don’t know if the universe is deterministic and quantum phenomenon(which probably affects magic) may be essentially random.

    I don't cause commotions, I am one.

    May 12, 2014 at 4:25 am #268738
    Gaultheria
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    Versions of Rumpel from different timelines seem to be flitting in and out of Storybrooke, if that shimmer in the final scene with the dagger is any indication.

    Gaultheria's fanvids: http://youtube.com/sagethrasher

    May 12, 2014 at 5:57 am #268756
    Amdillae
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    The said part CrystalPrincess is that that will be how it works and considering what happened in theses eps that is a cop out. Until this Zelena arc magic seemed to have some guidelines that it worked with. That was a great thing about OUAT is that they didn’t fall into the anime trope of ‘nothing needs to be explained it’s magic’ . I am kinda hoping that something does come up but I know it won’t, oh well.

    “The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap and much more difficult to find.” - Terry Pratchett

    May 12, 2014 at 9:03 am #268798
    JML
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    I don’t think Regina’s guards had that long a life-span anyway.  (Ha!)  The ones that were killed in the altered timeline might just as well been killed by an enraged Queen in the first timeline. To Regina, the guards were expendable.  To the viewers, the guards were generic and interchangeable.

    May 12, 2014 at 4:47 pm #269019
    wizard55
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    I still am not sure I like this kind of time travel. Same stuff used in Back to the Future…I much prefer the “Lost” approach. That made more sense. I’m sure if you dig through the past episodes there are LOTS of repercussions.

    May 12, 2014 at 6:39 pm #269066
    maddieb
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    So, is it just me? Did anyone see where Graham would have fit in the finale?  They said it would be obvious, but I’m thinking I need something to hit me over the head to see it.

    May 12, 2014 at 6:45 pm #269069
    Gaultheria
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    Did anyone see where Graham would have fit in the finale?

    It might just be that the timeline isn’t exactly back to the way it was, so they have a free pass to use the butterfly effect if they ever want to bring Graham back.

    Gaultheria's fanvids: http://youtube.com/sagethrasher

    May 12, 2014 at 8:08 pm #269077
    truidia
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    So I’ve got a whole list of things that would have changed the timeline but somehow didn’t.

    1) Emma stops her parents meeting resulting in a Ball thrown for the engagement of James and Abigail, during which Snow White breaks in, Regina’s black Knights have a sword fight, and an unknown Princess gets captured. How does that not change the timeline? You could argue that the ball would have happened regardless, but certainly the fight would not have.

    2) Hook met Snow White in the enchanted forest. Wouldn’t that screw up the timeline for season two. Why didn’t Snow recognize Hook from the Enchanted Forest after she and Emma got sucked into the hat. Meeting him literally resulted in her being burned alive.

    3) Snow and Regina meet and above burning happens. Even though Snow escaped unscathed, am I really supposed to believe that this event would not have altered Regina’s strategy toward dealing with Snow. In this scene, Regina learns that Snow is willing to use dark magic to kill her. Wouldn’t that put her on guard? Would that alter her strategy? And Snow. Would Snow really be so quick to stop Regina’s execution when Regina BURNED HER ALIVE. WTF.

    4) Rumble doesn’t question why he’s holding the black fairies wand in his dungeon? Where did he even get that, I thought Blue had it. And he doesn’t notice that Elsa’s urn is missing.

    5) Regina doesn’t question it when prisoners go missing in her dungeon?

    Ugh So Many Plot Holes.

    May 12, 2014 at 8:18 pm #269081
    Gaultheria
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    With all of the, uh, biological possibilities, any change in the timeline means that, at best, Emma isn’t Emma anymore, she’s her sister.

    Gaultheria's fanvids: http://youtube.com/sagethrasher

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