Pax Henrici et Pax Bellae?

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@Rcaret7z wrote:

This might be slightly off the beaten path – in seach of more bread crumbs… 😉
Although that is still kind of a hurtful thing to say to a step-mom/foster-mom, I kind of understand where Henry is comming from. Yes, she is after-all the “evil queen” but I doubt I’d get away with saying something like that to my non-biological mother… 😀

Interesting insight. Over in the “Henry calls her Mom?” thread, I just argued the opposite position. Some of the folks there felt it was surprising that he called Regina “Mom” and was so quick to defend her after a year of opposing her, but that’s exactly what I expected. I think he is very conflicted; he’s horrified by the things Regina does and he wants to protect everyone (especially Emma) from her but he also realizes that she loves him and he knows she has cared for him his whole life.

I thought his reaction to Regina that you referred to was pretty mild considering that he knows Regina kills people. He had just seen her try to kill his grandfather, and he probably feared that she may have killed Emma and Snow. I think Henry has always had a sympathy for Regina despite his determination to oppose all her evil acts, but killing Emma would also kill that sympathy. I think Henry’s comment to her made Regina realize something that she apparently didn’t get last year – if she kills Emma, Henry will hate her forever.

I love the fact that we have a show that gives us characters with such complex, conflicting emotions. I also love your .sig – a great Marcus Aurelius quote!

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I also think it was Bae in the city, but I’m beginning to suspect that Jefferson sent the note. Did anyone else notice that on the wall of the city apartment there was a sign that said “Hatter”? Sounds like a clue to me!

GOOD IDEA but I do not think Jefferson had contact with BAE…. still think it was the Blue Fairy… for reason above. Jefferson was fixated on his daughter…. there was no indication that he knew about Bae or Rumple at any time.

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@NONNIE wrote:

I also think it was Bae in the city, but I’m beginning to suspect that Jefferson sent the note. Did anyone else notice that on the wall of the city apartment there was a sign that said “Hatter”? Sounds like a clue to me!

GOOD IDEA but I do not think Jefferson had contact with BAE…. still think it was the Blue Fairy… for reason above. Jefferson was fixated on his daughter…. there was no indication that he knew about Bae or Rumple at any time.
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Now that I think about it, I think you’re right. The Blue Fairy makes more sense than Jefferson for exactly the reasons you gave. I was just really struck by that sign in the apartment. Of course, it may be a red herring or it may represent some more indirect connection with Jefferson that will be revealed later.

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I’m not quite ready to have Rumple and Regina retire from being the baddies just yet, but I agree that once they start being softened by those they care about (and I think this will take longer for Rumple even though he will have both Belle and Bae) then they will have to be replaced as big baddies. But I doubt it would be Hook, as interesting as having a big bad who can’t do magic be. I hope i’m not the only one who hasn’t forgotten that ALL the worlds were cursed, so they have plenty to chose from, the queen of hearts, the witches from Oz and maybe even the white witch from Narnia…the list goes on.

Also, i do think it would be cool to see a Charmings/Regina/Rumple allance, and the best way I see that happening is through Henry, if Bae is in fact his father. That would put him under the protection of all three grupes and if something happened to him…Think of all the family that would come to the rescue. It hasn’t even happened yet and i’m allready feeling sorry for who ever it was. 😆

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@Faux Pax wrote:

I’m not quite ready to have Rumple and Regina retire from being the baddies just yet, but I agree that once they start being softened by those they care about (and I think this will take longer for Rumple even though he will have both Belle and Bae) then they will have to be replaced as big baddies. But I doubt it would be Hook, as interesting as having a big bad who can’t do magic be. I hope i’m not the only one who hasn’t forgotten that ALL the worlds were cursed, so they have plenty to chose from, the queen of hearts, the witches from Oz and maybe even the white witch from Narnia…the list goes on.

Also, i do think it would be cool to see a Charmings/Regina/Rumple allance, and the best way I see that happening is through Henry, if Bae is in fact his father. That would put him under the protection of all three grupes and if something happened to him…Think of all the family that would come to the rescue. It hasn’t even happened yet and i’m allready feeling sorry for who ever it was. 😆

Now that would be an epic battle! It’s hard to imagine what villain could be powerful enough to stand up to the magical onslaught of the Charmings/Regina/Rumple (CR^2) alliance but I’m sure the writers could concoct one. It would make the attack on King George’s castle to rescue James in Season One look like just a minor disagreement. I keep envisioning the final battle scene in Lord of the Rings.

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Oh yeah. Epic. I’m thinking series finale level of badassary.

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Now that I’ve seen “We Are Both”, I think there’s a whole new dimension to the idea of a new villain. We were concerned the season premier that Regina might be limited in how much harm she would do because she didn’t want to antagonize Henry. But now that she has shown she is willing to let him go to avoid hurting him and she wants to earn his forgiveness, I was wondering just how we could still see her using magic against anyone and then it hit me: What if a new villain threatens Henry? Look at all the things Regina has done in the past just because (A) Snow innocently let herself be fooled into betraying Regina’s secret about Daniel and (B) Emma initially just wanted to spend some time with Henry. Now imagine what kind of wrath Regina would unleash against someone who actually tried to hurt or kill Henry! I bet that would make all of her previous attacks look like an afternoon tea party!

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Or what if something happened to Henry and Grace at the same time? Take that extended, protective family and add a bit of the mad hatter in papa wolf mode…excuse me a moment while i clean the brain splatter off my walls from where my mind just exploded. 😆

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I don’t know what bad guy would be powerful enough (or dumb enough?) to take on the combined forces of Rumple, Regina, Emma, Jefferson, and the combination of Snow, Charming, and all their allies (including Granny with her crossbow), but “I pity the fool!”

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