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Rumpel’s heart has been sucked dry of all darkness. It like literally the brightest bright heart we have seen since Henry plopped his out to give to Pan. I think its safe to say that the roles will be reversed. EMMA will ikely be the addict trying to steal Gold’s heart for her own magical reasons (a heart void of all darkness has a nice powerful magical ring to it) and Gold will be playing the hero role for now I think.
Although it feels like a cheat if they go this route. Rump never changed, he just got his heart vaccummed and now he is all good. To me, that’s no different than having the author write him as a hero.
Idk, Just thoughts.
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Although it feels like a cheat if they go this route. Rump never changed, he just got his heart vaccummed and now he is all good. To me, that’s no different than having the author write him as a hero.
Well, I suppose we don’t actually know that. If he wakes up “redeemed,” all problems solved, then that will feel like just lazy writing. But the other extreme (Rumple is back to his old tricks, I needs moar powerz!!!) would be totally unsatisfying, and also unconvincing. Essentially, unless they show some kind of internal struggle, it’s just going to fall flat.
Anyway, we actually don’t know if he wakes up at all. It’s quite possible the white glowing heart is simply needed for yet another one of A&E bizarre alchemical experiments. It might turn out that saving Emma will require a “heart that has been vacuumed of dark magic and has been returned to the chest of a largely lifeless man artificially preserved through a magic spell.” Maybe they’re setting up Rumple’s redemption through organ donation. 😛
Anyway, we actually don’t know if he wakes up at all. It’s quite possible the white glowing heart is simply needed for yet another one of A&E bizarre alchemical experiments. It might turn out that saving Emma will require a “heart that has been vacuumed of dark magic and has been returned to the chest of a largely lifeless man artificially preserved through a magic spell.” Maybe they’re setting up Rumple’s redemption through organ donation. ?
Actually, I was thinking the same thing.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Removing the “Dark One” from Rumple, I’m guessing, only resets him to his previous form. He will be the weak coward, hungry for power, and willing to do all the wrong things to get power. I think he will attempt to get the dagger and kill Emma with it, thus regaining his powers as the “Dark One”.
I’ve got a horrible feeling that this will happen. It was hinted at when the apprentice said that Rumple would struggle adjusting to this world without his powers.
Another thing they might do is continue along this biblical path
1. Emma absorbs everyone’s darkness, so that everyone gets the chance to continue their lives, starting with a clean slate.
2. Emma dies. killing the dark curse, and the characters’ darkness along with her.
3. Merlin or some other god-like figure resurrects her, or she becomes a bright star in the night sky.
If Rumple succeeds, replace Emma with Rumple in the plot above.
If Rumple’s heart is used as a darkness sucking device as @nevermore suggested, replace Emma with the Rumple’s bright heart.
Something as weird or as silly as that.
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Another thing they might do is continue along this biblical path 1. Emma absorbs everyone’s darkness, so that everyone gets the chance to continue their lives, starting with a clean slate. 2. Emma dies. killing the dark curse, and the characters’ darkness along with her. 3. Merlin or some other god-like figure resurrects her, or she becomes a bright star in the night sky.This actually….this could actually make a lot of sense, and I definitely see this as a possibility of the route! Brilliant headcannon @onceaholic!
The only slight issue is that that would be a perfect way to end the series all together, and if they pull this off in Season 5 and are renewed for Season 6, who could be the new villain if Emma sucked everyone’s darkness out?
It’d have to be the original darkness….Hades type of figure!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
He’s a coward, afraid to be powerless because he’s experienced it and how it can take away everything he loves. Every time he chose power over those he loved, he repented and was pretty severely punished. And every time he’s done it, it was because he was afraid–afraid of being unable to protect himself and losing his son/Belle, afraid of something worse happening. It’s not power that drives Rumplestiltskin. It’s fear. Power is what he believes will stop the fear. He’s wrong, and we as the audience recognize that, but the core motivation for just about everything Rumple has done is fear. And his greatest fear is that he is unloveable.
Exactly! And every time he chose power he was already the dark one (except for the first time). How much darkness did rumples heart have before he became the dark one? I’m guessing not much … If any.
I think, while they didn’t spell it out for us entirely, we got some serious clues about Rumple’s S4 motivation from The Apprentice (where he needed the tears of someone who had faced their inner darkness and turned away–something that no Dark One could supply up to then, though now Emma HAS done just that, because to become the DO you had to want the power enough to kill the previous DO) and his answer in the finale to Belle’s question about why it wasn’t good enough.
He did have darkness in his heart before he became the DO. He made some bad choices and had dealt with the bad choices of the people he loved and trusted since childhood. His father’s decision to abandon him–twice–scarred him, and that plus his innate fear drove him to injure himself to escape the battle. We’ve discussed elsewhere why that wasn’t a noble act, no matter how noble his desire to be there for his son. I think, though, that that moment may well have put the first darkness in his heart–he selfishly chose to go home and be with his family instead of fighting to save his kingdom. It wasn’t the choice of a hero. And he couldn’t even have known for certain that he HAD a son coming; he took the word of the seer. While we know he loved his son from the first moment he met him, it was an act of cowardice, not love, to cripple himself, and Milah’s reaction to what he did confirms that position.
Milah’s leaving him only confirmed to him how worthless and unloveable he was. That left room for more darkness to enter…I think we saw in the way he tried to work Emma’s darkness how depression and anger pave the way. And there’s some foreshadowing there in how he spoke to Anna, as well.
For me, however, the answer he gave Belle, that he was afraid nobody could love him…that is the bit that rang most true and explained everything in S4 to me finally. Yeah, he was also scared of losing his own ability to love in 4B and desperate to take the opportunity to escape the DO curse with powers intact in 4A…but this explained to me why. Like Emma, he’s never had a love that didn’t leave him or hurt him horribly.
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Milah’s leaving him only confirmed to him how worthless and unloveable he was.
Except Belle is not Milah and she’s not Cora. Belle was never going to make the same decisions that both Milah and Cora did. All Belle wanted was him; just him. Belle was never going to choose a better life or make power a bigger priority than him, (which is what both Milah and Cora, did). That stuff never mattered to her. All she cared about was him.
I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. It isn’t that Rumple is difficult to love; it’s that he makes it difficult for other people to love him. There’s a big difference there. The difference is that he keeps on putting up these barriers/creating complications, to make it harder for other people to love him. Rumple is his own worst enemy because he is often the source of most every major complication in a relationship he is involved in.
It was this way with Milah, Baelfire and now with Belle.
Milah’s leaving him only confirmed to him how worthless and unloveable he was.
Except Belle is not Milah and she’s not Cora. Belle was never going to make the same decisions that both Milah and Cora did. All Belle wanted was him; just him. Belle was never going to choose a better life or make power a bigger priority than him, (which is what both Milah and Cora, did). That stuff never mattered to her. All she cared about was him.
I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. It isn’t that Rumple is difficult to love; it’s that he makes it difficult for other people to love him. There’s a big difference there. The difference is that he keeps on putting up these barriers/creating complications, to make it harder for other people to love him. Rumple is his own worst enemy because he is often the source of most every major complication in a relationship he is involved in.
It was this way with Milah, Baelfire and now with Belle.
Belle isn’t Cora or Milah, but that doesn’t mean Rumple doesn’t still have insecurities as a result of those two relationships. The same could be said for Emma, Hook isn’t Neal or Walsh but Emma still had her insecurities that she had to overcome.
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