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August 23, 2013 at 11:37 am #206409SlurpeezParticipant
What do we know about the mysterious Peter Pan? Even though we haven’t met him, we know a few things about him based on what we’ve seen (and haven’t seen). Who is Peter Pan?
- PP’s creepy shadow kidnaps children (he came to take Wendy’s brothers, but Baelfire intervened)
- PP only wants boys (according to Wendy)
- PP holds boys captive on Neverland such that they can never leave (according to Wendy)
- Peter Pan can riiiiiip shadows (according to Felix)
- He is “someone we all should fear” (according to Rumple)
- “Peter Pan never fails” (according to Felix)
- He has been hunting a particular boy, who is Henry, for hundreds of years (Henry’s picture is seen at the cliffhanger of 2×22).
According to Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis, Peter Pan is someone we should all be worried about.
In fact, Kitsis says we all should be extremely weary of this one. “Rumplestilskin, or Mr. Gold (Robert Carlyle) said, ‘He’s a man we should all be frightened of.’ I think that if he’s a little bit worried, we all should be very worried.”
Horowitz adds that like Peter Pan, Neverland is not something you want to mess around with. “Well for us, Neverland is kind of a place that makes you confront your past. It’s sort of the heart of darkness and to be a 200 year-old person, you know because you don’t grow up there, you have to keep yourself amused,” he says.
Not to worry OUAT fans, the creators promise that all the twisted details will be revealed in a timely manner. “However long Peter Pan has been there and for whatever reason he has been there, we intend to reveal our take on that and on the legend of Peter Pan,” Horowitz spills. “We have a way that it intertwines with our Once Upon a Time mythology that we’re really excited to unveil.”
Not only is Peter Pan someone to be feared, but he is also a very cunning individual.
You may be wondering, as I was, why Once‘s Peter Pan is a force “we all should fear”? (Or was Rumple overselling it?) “There’s a history between those two,” series cocreator Adam Horowitz affirms. “There is a big reason why he said if you’re going to be scared of someone, this is the guy to be scared of.” But there is also a degree of professional respect. “When you meet Pan, you’re going to see a very, very, very clever person,” says Eddy Kitsis. “And if there’s one thing Rumple admires, it’s somebody who has game.”
The casting call for “Rufio” (aka Peter Pan) said that:
Rufio is in his teens, and is a mischievous and devious Lost Boy.
The actor who is to play Peter Pan has been cast as 18-year-old Robbie Kay.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 23, 2013 at 11:52 am #206416PheeParticipantI’m dying to see what he looks like! Surely he’ll be included in the promo photos, if they ever freaking get around to releasing them.
August 23, 2013 at 11:58 am #206419RumplesGirlKeymasterI know once we get his backstory, we’ll understand why they keep calling him “complicated” but I’m really leaning toward PP being rather psychotic. If we’re right in some of our guesses, he carved up the face of Felix, maybe for disobedience. He seems to like torturing Rumple with the little “present” Felix gave him. I get the sense that PP thinks he is working for some greater good and doesn’t care who stands in his way.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 23, 2013 at 1:27 pm #206440SlurpeezParticipantAccording to Eddy and Adam, Peter Pan is “complex” and his motivation is “complicated.”
Ominously, Peter Pan’s Lost Boys had a sketch of Henry, who the man in charge has been searching for over the last few centuries. “Peter Pan has a complicated motivation,” executive producer Adam Horowitz said. Kitsis added: “He might be frightening for some people.”
I also think Peter Pan may want Henry dead. When the Lost Ones confirmed that Baelfire was not “the boy” they were searching for, Felix said, “It’s your lucky day. You get to live.” That signals pretty loud and clear that once they find the particular boy in question, PP will want him dead. The title for 3×1 “Heart of the Truest Believer” makes me think Henry is the Truest Believer and that PP wants his heart. Pretty ominous. Check out what Jared Gilmore has to say about Henry being a true believer.
I feel that Henry’s innocent imagination is the ‘key’ that unlocks the door between the two worlds. Reality and Fairytale. The book is just a another story to anyone else who reads it, but Henry believes it.
Jared’s choice of words is very interesting. He says Henry’s “innocent imagination” is a “key” between worlds (FTL and our world). The fact that Henry believes in magic is also essential.
I think Henry’s belief in that his family were all FTL characters who were cursed is pretty amazing. His imagination is fueled by that belief. And according to Adam and Eddy, belief and imagination is what NL runs on.
We’ll finally get to see Neverland in Season 3 as the series brings the Jolly Roger crew into murky waters in the presence of Peter Pan, who has not yet been cast. “It is a fantastical island,” executive producer Edward Kitsis said. “It’s the place where imagination comes from, so it’s the place where anything can happen.”
The fact that imagination comes from NL makes me think, too, that Henry’s storybook may have come from NL and the PP could even be the author of the book. PP needed Henry to become the Truest Believer, so PP orchestrated events such that the Dark Curse would be cast and that Henry would come to believe in it based on faith on what he read in the storybook of his.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 29, 2013 at 9:26 am #207140PanTheManParticipantDisney’s Peter Pan (which I watched last night!)
Wendy tells Peter, “Oh, I hope it [his shadow] isn’t rumpled.
RUMPLED – Ha!
August 29, 2013 at 9:37 am #207143PanTheManParticipantAfter watching the cartoon, here are some things I thought of:
Peter Pan came to the nursery window to listen to Wendy’s stories. For me, this seems like it could be a pretty strong connection to who wrote the book- whether wendy or PP. For some reason, I think Tink will be involved too.
PP wanted Wendy to be a mother to him and the lost boys. What if kidnapping Henry was more about Emma or Regina than Henry? (I doubt it, but it’s something to think about). Considering so much of the show is about motherhood, I doubt those themes will disappear.
When PP is flying around the Darling’s house, he looks more like a shadow in the dark, but when he comes in the light, you see the iconic green tights, feathered hat, and red hair. I wonder if the Shadow and PP are less separate than we’ve assumed. What if he is a night and day entity, PP during daytime and Shadow during night time. (They are probably completely separate, but i wanted to share)
Fairy Dust vs. the power of Believing. I’m wondering if the Power of Believing is going to replace a certain emphasis on fairy dust in PP mythology.
August 29, 2013 at 10:02 am #207147RumplesGirlKeymasterPeter Pan came to the nursery window to listen to Wendy’s stories. For me, this seems like it could be a pretty strong connection to who wrote the book- whether wendy or PP. For some reason, I think Tink will be involved too.
I’ve thought for quite some time now that the fairies, Tink and Blue, were responsible for writing the book. Maybe it was Pan who ordered the book to be written but Blue was feeding them information.
Fairy Dust vs. the power of Believing. I’m wondering if the Power of Believing is going to replace a certain emphasis on fairy dust in PP mythology.
I think both are going to play a role. Believing is going to be HUGE this season, as A and E have said. And I suspect that the way home to SB is with some pixie dust on the JR.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 29, 2013 at 10:22 am #207151SlurpeezParticipantWhen PP is flying around the Darling’s house, he looks more like a shadow in the dark, but when he comes in the light, you see the iconic green tights, feathered hat, and red hair. I wonder if the Shadow and PP are less separate than we’ve assumed. What if he is a night and day entity, PP during daytime and Shadow during night time. (They are probably completely separate, but i wanted to share).
This would be a really interesting idea. It reminds me of the Swan Princess; she was a bird by day but at night would transform back into a human whenever the moonlight reflected off of the lake. It could be that PP is cursed in a similar way to have a duality to his identity/appearance. Maybe only Henry can save PP from his cursed state.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 29, 2013 at 10:45 am #207152PanTheManParticipantSomething else I noticed, on the Neverland map, the jolly roger is anchored in CANNIBAL’S COVE. That’s the Disney version, and that’s already dark enough for Adam and Eddy’s vision, I bet.
August 29, 2013 at 3:51 pm #207203TheWatcherParticipantAlso something interesting you may wish to add on the list: Peter (or atleast his shadow) is capable of traveling between worlds.
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