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May 2, 2013 at 1:15 pm #190589emma-bae-henryParticipant
Thanks LisaS for the post. And a hug thanks to RumpleGirl for such a great job as Forum Moderator.
Meter Man — Peter Pan. Take me a while. .. Not good with rhymes at all.
Who will die? I thought it was Granny 😥 😥 based on the scene of Henry's playing on the rope in the park and maybe seeing the body down on the rock but the picture above of the Charmings seems to be taken in the underground mine. Is it Bae? 😥 😥
Love the Charmings picture. Such a loving family, each with a very beautiful and forgiving heart.
Lacey vs. Bae? Oh, Rumpel chooses the light. You can do it. There are still lot of good left in you. Don’t let Belle down. And please please don’t let Bae down AGAIN. I need lots of cookies… Want some anyone… Joining the corner rocking back and forth now..
[adrotate group="5"]May 2, 2013 at 1:35 pm #190598SlurpeezParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
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1) Rumple will choose Neal. I believe that. He has learned from his mistakes and in doing so, I think Lacey will have a “Belle” moment that will lead to her somehow getting her memories back.I still fret about the prophesy and what it means for Rumple’s relationship with Neal. Will Rumple make the same mistake he made centuries before? We know MRJ ends up in the same place as Philip, Mulan, & Aurora. So, unless Tamara is the one to send him there, it might be the consequence of Rumple choosing Lacey over Neal. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst has become my new motto for Rumple.
2) I still like the idea of Nealfire Pan, but it is looking less and less likely.
Yeah, I’m with you.
3) RIP Granny. I’m sure of it.
Sure? Could be. I’ll get my box of tissues handy, just in case. 😥
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
May 2, 2013 at 1:45 pm #190602kfchimeraParticipantI do wonder about the Peter Pan thing. A&E talked about hisshadow more than him. Then the reporter said something like “split himself in two”….well not out of the realm of possibility as even in the original tale Peter is split from his shadow and it acts on it own.
Though it does seem like they are going a different direction and Peter Pan will be a separate (and darker) character.“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
May 2, 2013 at 1:45 pm #190603DemiletoParticipantWho’s dying next? It’s been a few weeks since someone in Storybrooke has met a grizzly end — R.I.P., Cora! — and it sounds like we won’t have to wait much longer for another tragedy. Eddy told reporters that we should “perhaps” expect a death on the May 5 episode
I think the word perhaps is key here. I’m still convinced Neal will appear to have died to his family, but we’ll find out he actually got transported to FTL in the finale. By the black diamond of doom, maybe?
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3) RIP Granny. I’m sure of it.
Granny’s not listed for “Second Star to the Right…”, which is when the “perhaps” death happens, so she’s safe for the next episode.
By the way, as the article reminds us, villains also count as major deaths, and I can totally see Rumple killing Tamara gruesomely if he believes she killed Neal. I wouldn’t rule her out as another possible death.
May 2, 2013 at 2:17 pm #190612TheGoldenKeyParticipant@LisaS wrote:
Is Baelfire/Neal secretly also Peter Pan? That’s been a popular fan theory as of late, but it doesn’t like it’ll pan out. (See what I did there?) In fact, a young Baelfire (Raymond Michael James) will come face-to-face with the un-aging boy in the next two weeks, so unless he figured out a way to split himself in two, they’re different people.
Interesting about the part where they say “unless he figured out a way to split himself in two”. Other articles, they refer to Peter Pan as the “shadowy” figure that takes Wendy. Is that a confirmation that Bae is Peter Pan and he’s been split from his shadow? They are really playing us with words here. Just like they said no one has guessed who Neal is yet. Note they didn’t say no one has guessed who Bae is yet. Bae would be Peter Pan, not Neal.
Leaving me with some hope that Bae=Pan will still play out 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
May 2, 2013 at 2:38 pm #190616PheeParticipant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
@LisaS wrote:
Is Baelfire/Neal secretly also Peter Pan? That’s been a popular fan theory as of late, but it doesn’t like it’ll pan out. (See what I did there?) In fact, a young Baelfire (Raymond Michael James) will come face-to-face with the un-aging boy in the next two weeks, so unless he figured out a way to split himself in two, they’re different people.
Interesting about the part where they say “unless he figured out a way to split himself in two”. Other articles, they refer to Peter Pan as the “shadowy” figure that takes Wendy. Is that a confirmation that Bae is Peter Pan and he’s been split from his shadow? They are really playing us with words here.
There was a discussion in another thread a day or so ago where this possibility was being tossed around. Someone joked about checking the preview for Bae’s shadow. So I did. Only one part where there’s an unobstructed view of his feet touching the floor, but it was sorta dark, and he was running over a patterned rug, so even though I don’t think I saw a shadow, it was far from conclusive. I know what I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled for when I’m watching the full ep though. Just in case. 😛
May 2, 2013 at 2:39 pm #190617RumplesGirlKeymasterGranny’s not listed for “Second Star to the Right…”, which is when the “perhaps” death happens, so she’s safe for the next episode.
Good catch! But the “perhaps” for the death could mean it’s not until the finale on the 12th. And the actress who plays Granny tweeted on one of the final days of shooting that it was her last day working on ONCE and it was sad but apparently Lana bought everyone ice cream.
Interesting about the part where they say “unless he figured out a way to split himself in two”. Other articles, they refer to Peter Pan as the “shadowy” figure that takes Wendy. Is that a confirmation that Bae is Peter Pan and he’s been split from his shadow? They are really playing us with words here. Just like they said no one has guessed who Neal is yet. Note they didn’t say no one has guessed who Bae is yet. Bae would be Peter Pan, not Neal.
Leaving me with some hope that Bae=Pan will still play out 🙂
There is a theory that Slurpeez and I came up with this morning (see here, warning spoilers: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=3844&start=50) that there is no Peter, only the Pan which a magical shadow. Whoever captures the shadow can use it for their own purposes. So at some point Bae could have captured the shadow, making him the “Pan” in some regards.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 2, 2013 at 2:42 pm #190619TheGoldenKeyParticipant@Demileto wrote:
I think the word perhaps is key here. I’m still convinced Neal will appear to have died to his family, but we’ll find out he actually got transported to FTL in the finale. By the black diamond of doom, maybe?
.I’m with you on this one. There’s a reason why MRJ was filming separately from the cast during those last days and we do see pics of Neal with Mulan, Aurora and Phillip. If Phillip is now free, they have to show us some sort of battle with the wraith. I don’t think they are in NL though as they are separated from the group. Has to be the EF.
Can’t comment on who is dying as I can’t seem to find the pics everyone is talking about regarding Granny. Hope it’s not her though. Maybe it’s Kurt due to the price Owen has to now play for messing around with magic (the little brat!). 😉
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
May 2, 2013 at 2:53 pm #190625TheGoldenKeyParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
There is a theory that Slurpeez and I came up with this morning (see here, warning spoilers: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=3844&start=50) that there is no Peter, only the Pan which a magical shadow. Whoever captures the shadow can use it for their own purposes. So at some point Bae could have captured the shadow, making him the “Pan” in some regards.
Oooh!!!! I so love the idea that whoever catches the shadow is Pan. 😀 How much fun would that be? 😀 Great thoughts RG and slurpeez!
In the movie Hook (though it’s so far from canon) we do see the torch being passed on from an adult Peter to Rufio, so I can easily see K&H meshing all of these things into one. Still prefer the first theory about capturing the shadow though. 😀
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
May 2, 2013 at 2:57 pm #190626PheeParticipant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Can’t comment on who is dying as I can’t seem to find the pics everyone is talking about regarding Granny.
There were only a couple of pics of Beverley on set, and they’re on this page:
http://vancityfilming.com/once-upon-a-time-jennifer-ginnifer-robert-josh-and-beverley/There’s a post describing what was being shot that day, including more photos (though none of Beverley) here:
http://canadagraphs.weebly.com/8/post/2013/04/once-upon-a-time-films-a-scene-for-the-finale-of-season-2-with-henry-emma-mr-gold-david-mary-granny.html -
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