Peter Pan Confirmed To Be Played by a New Male Actor

[HappyEndings]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@HappyEndings wrote:

I think PP is trapped like the lost boys and doesn’t know how to get out of the orginal deal that he made with the “office” 😕

That’s interesting! So he’s a puppet? Who runs the Office then?

That part I don’t have figure out yet because if NL was really that bad why would Hook go back he has apparently been in NL several times since he knew of the mermaids and PP. PP didn’t want anything to do with Hook before until he had Bae.

Question: I thought the lost boys were trapped on NL and couldn’t leave if that is the case how can Felix the twins use boats then to meet people like Hook ❓

[kfchimera]

We don’t know how much Hook knows about NL. He knew enough to guess he could live long enough to fashion his revenge against the Dark One. He mentions mermaids, but in that series of flashbacks at least, he thinks Bae could “be the key to their very survival” in NL. That sounds like Hook didn’t feel all that safe and established at that point in time. PP wasn’t actively hunting the pirates but it seemed like the Lost Boys thought they could come and search his ship if they wanted. Yet Hook thought he could protect Bae from the Lost Ones and Bae did manage to hide the first time.

We don’t know if Hook came and went from NL repeatedly. We know he went after the Crocodile events, and we know he left before the curse hit. We don’t know where he intended to go by himself, before turning the boat around. After he has the SB crew board though, it’s the globe that determined the destination. Hook didn’t choose to go back there, so we don’t know if there’s a reason he would or wouldn’t want to go.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[HappyEndings]

But remember Smee comment to Hook about Bae saying he wouldn’t like it so Smee and Hook as been there before.

[kfchimera]

Wait, do you mean the island itself rather than the world? While there’s nothing to suggest Hook went back and forth from FL to NL, he could have had crew explore the island to bring back information. Hook knew the Lost Ones were bad news, and knew about the mermaids. It sounded like they’d been in NL for at least a few weeks, long enough to learn some stuff about the place.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[HappyEndings]

@HappyEndings wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@HappyEndings wrote:

I think PP is trapped like the lost boys and doesn’t know how to get out of the orginal deal that he made with the “office” 😕

That’s interesting! So he’s a puppet? Who runs the Office then?

That part I don’t have figure out yet because if NL was really that bad why would Hook go back he has apparently been in NL several times since he knew of the mermaids and PP. PP didn’t want anything to do with Hook before until he had Bae.

Question: I thought the lost boys were trapped on NL and couldn’t leave if that is the case how can Felix the twins use boats then to meet people like Hook ❓

Question: What if Henry is the one to break the curse in NL for the Lost Kids since time is frozen kind of like Emma did in SB ❓

[Phee]

@KFChimera wrote:

I think there’s always been that hidden edge to the character of Peter Pan, as others have said, that dark side of childhood. We sometimes glamorize how kids are, as all sweet and innocent and forget that we often do call bad behavior “childish” or “immature”.

A darker Pan would make for a nice contrast to Henry. We’ve already been introduced to this kid who is full of hope and belief that the good guys always win. So I could see K&H wanting to play up the complete opposite of that by magnifying Pan’s darker traits. Pan and Henry facing off could get quite interesting.

If they do make Peter permanently stuck and unable to grow up because of magic, I could see how he might eventually come to want to rid the world of magic to be free of his curse. If they bring in some of the themes in Tuck Everlasting (a novel, which Disney turned into a movie), it could soften his background story, but still leave him as dangerous. Basically focus on the idea that the magic took him out of the natural order of life and he wants to return to it.

Yes, this is one of the ideas that I’ve been kicking around in my head, that he needs something from Henry that will enable him to change, so that he can actually, finally grow up.

@KFChimera wrote:

Wait, do you mean the island itself rather than the world? While there’s nothing to suggest Hook went back and forth from FL to NL, he could have had crew explore the island to bring back information. Hook knew the Lost Ones were bad news, and knew about the mermaids. It sounded like they’d been in NL for at least a few weeks, long enough to learn some stuff about the place.

Though putting a time on anything in NL is fraught with confusion, my guess would be around about a month. Felix made a comment about them being new to the land, so they can’t have been there that long, but as you say, still long enough to know some stuff. I wonder if Hook had a crewmember fall overboard and they all watched on as some mermaids dragged him down to his death.

ETA: Actually, wasn’t another of Hook’s crew listed in a cast list for the finale (or was it the 2nd last ep)? Maybe there was a scene where he was in the water and got dragged down, but it got cut? Might explain why the bit about Hook telling Bae about mermaids while they were driving the boat was also cut?

[Demileto]

@Phee wrote:

ETA: Actually, wasn’t another of Hook’s crew listed in a cast list for the finale (or was it the 2nd last ep)?

I think that was in that fake press release for “Second Star to the Right”.

[RumplesGirl]

It might be helpful to establish–at least here–that Neverland is the entire world, yes? Both the island and the ocean, except that the island has some sort of magical property in which if you set foot upon it, you are doomed to stay forever. Hook could leave because apparently he never stepped on NL. Bae did, so we have to account for how he left the island and my guess is that PP let him go.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Demileto]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

except that the island has some sort of magical property in which if you set foot upon it, you are doomed to stay forever.

I’m still not convinced of that. Hook said that it was impossible to leave Neverland even while not having set foot upon the island in the finale, one’d think he’d believe otherwise if this magical property existed. Moving between realms isn’t something easy to do, I see this as being just a case of the known means of doing that being controlled by Peter Pan.

[RumplesGirl]

@Demileto wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

except that the island has some sort of magical property in which if you set foot upon it, you are doomed to stay forever.

I’m still not convinced of that. Hook said that it was impossible to leave Neverland even while not having set foot upon the island in the finale, one’d think he’d believe otherwise if this magical property existed. Moving between realms isn’t something easy to do, I see this as being just a case of the known means of doing that being controlled by Peter Pan.

Good point. Maybe it’s not a magical curse type that prevents people from leaving, but rather it’s Pan that prevents people from leaving. Once you’re on the island, you’re his.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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