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September 29, 2013 at 9:20 pm #212834RumplesGirlKeymaster
If you were here over the summer than you probably already know the scene between Felix and Rumple and the doll. There are many theories about it and if you go to the 301 spoiler section on this forum you can read a ton of them!
What’s your theory? What is the doll?
Are Rumple and Peter related or do they just know each other? Many of us, myself included, think they are brothers! It’s in the PP literature.
What is Rumple’s history with Neverland?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 29, 2013 at 11:09 pm #212900RumplesGirlKeymasterDid Rumple go to NL as the Dark One (Felix seems to know him that way) or did he go prior to being the Dark One?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 29, 2013 at 11:18 pm #212911SlurpeezParticipantI now think that Rumple was a Lost Boy once upon a time. The doll is probably a replica of his dad, with whom he had difficulties. The doll might also have belonged to Baelfire.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm #212920Killian JonesParticipantThis thing between them can go so many ways since there’s no way of telling how old Peter Pan is. There’s something in Rumple’s past with Pan that made Rumple fear him. I’m thinking it has to go back to his childhood something about the way he talks about him makes me think it goes back that far.
September 29, 2013 at 11:32 pm #212922tabsicleParticipantI think that the doll was Rumples when he was a child
Time to hide your crazy, and start acting like a lady.
September 29, 2013 at 11:33 pm #212923Killian JonesParticipantI think that the doll was Rumples when he was a child
I concur 🙂
September 29, 2013 at 11:35 pm #212925JosephineParticipantI’m still firmly in the camp that Peter Pan is Rumple’s older brother. Ain’t nothing budging me until it plays out differently on screen.
As to the doll, I have no idea. I think it has to do with Rumple as a child and not Baelfire related.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
September 29, 2013 at 11:36 pm #212927RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m still firmly in the camp that Peter Pan is Rumple’s older brother. Ain’t nothing budging me until it plays out differently on screen. As to the doll, I have no idea. I think it has to do with Rumple as a child and not Baelfire related.
Ditto. The fact that Pan is ok with Rumple in general to me is a big sign. It’s only when it comes to Henry do they have problems.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 30, 2013 at 12:04 am #212944PheeParticipantI’m still firmly in the camp that Peter Pan is Rumple’s older brother. Ain’t nothing budging me until it plays out differently on screen.
YES! YAY, now we can discuss the brothers theory out in the open instead of whispered in relation to spoilers.
I think the line in the Rumple/Felix scene about Rumple and PP being enemies goes back to how in the original story, PP felt like he’d been replaced when his parents had a second child, and that’s when he threw his lot in with the fairies 100% and ended up going to NL. This is sibling rivalry on roids. They might even bring something into it like their mother died while giving birth to Rumple, and that’s where PP’s animosity towards his little brother stems from.
So PP went to NL when Rumple was a baby, and then years later, after whatever happened to their father, PP had Rumple brought to NL, and Rumple had that doll, which had been made by their father. Maybe PP has one just like it, and that’s what he uses as proof when he tells Rumple that they’re brothers. PP kicks Rumple out of NL, and he leaves the doll behind, and PP kept it for a rainy day, and that day is now, because PP needs to weaken Rumple, and bringing up their family history can instantly make him vulnerable.
Neal has that line about, “might not always seem like it, but family was important to dear old dad,” and Rumple in NL in this ep is have some serious family FEELS.
September 30, 2013 at 12:28 am #212958RumplesGirlKeymasterThis is sibling rivalry on roids. They might even bring something into it like their mother died while giving birth to Rumple, and that’s where PP’s animosity towards his little brother stems from.
I actually wonder if the doll was once Peter’s and then it was given to Rumple and that started this little feud.
Neal has that line about, “might not always seem like it, but family was important to dear old dad,” and Rumple in NL in this ep is have some serious family FEELS.
There was so much Neal family love this episode. <3
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