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October 4, 2013 at 1:48 am #213835AnonymousInactive
I think that Peter Pan wants Wendy back, depending on how they write this version of him, it makes sense. I am not sure how old he is, 300 years old? but some of the Peter Pan stories say Wendy was his true love, and as we know true love is the core of OUAT, right?
I see him like the character played by Kirsten Dunst from that movie, “Interview with a Vampire”. She was a vampire, so she never aged, and became a woman trapped in the body of a 12 yr old, prior to puberty. She was in love w/Brad Pitt’s character, and they could do nothing about it physically as she was a child, and he was a man. So this version of Peter Pan, who I love already, wants Henry who has the “heart of the true believer”, which is what he would give to Wendy, so that she would stay young, and in Neverland with him. Just remember “evil isn’t born, it’s made”, right?
But who does this sound like? Regina. Peter wants to MAKE Wendy stay with him in Neverland. Regina can’t understand why no one loves her, right? She tries to make them love her, ie. using magic to give Henry cake and friends etc..
Aaah, first love, so cute! But not so much, with Peter Pan. Adorable Bae and Wendy seemed to have a cute little first time attraction, remember when she came back and they hold hands?. Bae warned her that magic was evil and that there was always a price, and she said that she understood that when she came back. Wendy asked Peter to go home, “the shadow” (the only way he can travel outside of Neverland) to go home, and he did not want her to go.
Peter was angry that she did not want to stay with him, and remain young forever. But since time moves differently there, and it seems his shadow can travel through time (the picture of Henry) his obsession with finding Henry, made him a twisted, manipulative old soul, who wanted to remain young forever.
But Wendy heard the boys, who apparently are not “the Lost Boys”, we know about, but all the ones that the Shadow was finding in his search for Henry. As we know, we have no idea what happened to Bae in Neverland, and anything could have happened, ie. Peter found out that Bae was the reason that Wendy did not want to stay with him. And Henry is Bae’s son…mmmmm
[adrotate group="5"]October 4, 2013 at 6:35 am #213840PheeParticipantWendy will definitely come into play again somehow. And the theme of motherhood will also definitely be playing a role. Traditionally, those two things go hand in hand, with Wendy becoming a mother of sorts for the Lost Boys.
The Lost Ones, the troop led by Felix, don’t seem like the types who long for a mother. But the Lost Boys who cry in the night would long for a mother. What side does PP fall on? At the moment, I’m suspecting he’s really a Lost Boy, putting on the bravado so he’s able to be the leader of the Lost Ones.
So perhaps he’s holding Wendy prisoner in NL in present day so she can mother the Lost Boys, but secretly, he actually genuinely likes having her around, because she fills an emotional void for him as well?
October 4, 2013 at 1:24 pm #213927AnonymousInactiveI don’t know, it is so hard to say….but Wendy definitely has something to do with it. I also think the shadow is how he does his dirty workbetween worlds and time. And it has something to with the wraith, as souls and shadow seem to be melding. time travel can be so difficult to figure out, right? And he had Henry’s picture since Bae was 14; 300+ ys ago. I also think he wrote the book as part of the search for the true believer.
I watched Fringe, and now Continuum, which if you like the scifi/fantasy genre, I highly recommend it as it gives another pov on time travel and moving through timelines.
We’ll see, but after one epi, he reminds me of both Regina and Rumple, and I feel may end up being a very tragic character. But, extremely dangerous and manipulative because games are for kids, but isn’t that what Regina and Rumple do?
Finally we don’t know much yet,think here is what I have right now:
Rumple learned how to enact the curse from him, as no one grew old for 28 years, like in Neverland, except Emma broke the curse
We will learn how they got Philip back and it has to do w/Neverland & Peter’s shadow. remember the Milan heard the sounds of lost souls when the wraith showed up in the Enchanted Forest? Sounds like the sounds of the crying that Wendy heard……
Peter/Bae/Hook/Wendy are all connected somehow, and I would not put it past Peter to have let Bae go in order to find Henry…but he became Neal, he grew up & the shadow seems to have been everywhere & they could not find him.
From what Tamara said, their have been people like them trying to destroy magic for a very long time.
I am loving Peter Pan already, and I can’t wait for more season 3!
October 4, 2013 at 2:23 pm #213937kfchimeraParticipantI do not think we will see Wendy and Peter in a romantic relationship but that is a popular spin for off-shoots of Peter Pan. In the original it is very obvious Wendy sort of has a crush, as perhaps her mother before her did, and that he continues to come to her line through granddaughters to find a mother for his boys.
Maybe there’s something almost Oedipal in that, but Peter was looking for a mother, not a girlfriend, and he didn’t want to be touched or kiss, or to grow up be a man and get married.
What this incarnation wants, now there’s the puzzle. The way Wendy reacted upon returning home, I did not get the feeling she enjoyed NL in the least, but maybe she was sneakyWendy setting up Bae so she could please Peter.
I am so curious what we will learn and see with her again.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 4, 2013 at 5:58 pm #213985SlurpeezParticipantPeter Pan – Let’s Play!
Once Upon A Time creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis decided to flip the Peter Pan story making Pan one of the scariest villains we’ve met so far! He might look like a teenage boy but he’s a devil in disguise with psychotic tendencies… He seems to take great pleasure in taunting Emma, luring her away from the camp with the sound of the Lost Boys’ / children crying. He sets up a challenge as he gives her a map, which will help her find her son Henry. The only trouble with that, is that the map is blank – Emma will have to come to terms with who she really is, if she wants to find her son.
Source: Entertainment OutlookColin O’Donoghue: “At some stage you will get to see what’s gone on in the past, some of what’s gone in the past ‘cause remember that he was in Neverland for hundreds of years,” Colin said. “[Pan] — he’s quite a nasty character, really and sort of, traditionally, Hook, I guess, is the kind of bad guy. But their relationship is complicated. It’s not just as straightforward as, ‘Hook wants to kill Pan.’ … He’s tied to him in ways that I can’t actually say at the minute, but it’s interesting the way that they’ve done it.”
Source: Access Hollywood"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 6, 2013 at 9:20 am #214206obisgirlParticipantIt’s small but it pretty much spells out why Pan needs Henry and it’s close to what I was thinking too.
THE LOST BOY | Peter Pan (played by Robbie Kay) has thus far only hinted at the broad strokes of his plan for Henry, but here is how Jared Gilmore sums it up: “The Lost Boys and Peter Pan want Henry to save magic… because magic is dying [in Neverland].” And that is a bad thing because…? “If magic is fading, maybe they’re getting older,” Gilmore guesses. “Then they can’t stay young forever in Neverland.”
October 6, 2013 at 9:57 am #214218DemiletoParticipantI do not think we will see Wendy and Peter in a romantic relationship but that is a popular spin for off-shoots of Peter Pan. In the original it is very obvious Wendy sort of has a crush, as perhaps her mother before her did, and that he continues to come to her line through granddaughters to find a mother for his boys.
Maybe there’s something almost Oedipal in that, but Peter was looking for a mother, not a girlfriend, and he didn’t want to be touched or kiss, or to grow up be a man and get married.
What this incarnation wants, now there’s the puzzle. The way Wendy reacted upon returning home, I did not get the feeling she enjoyed NL in the least, but maybe she was sneakyWendy setting up Bae so she could please Peter.
I am so curious what we will learn and see with her again.
I hope you’re wrong with that, because for ONCE (pun intended) I want to see Peter end up with Wendy.
Barrie may not have intended a love relationship between Peter and Wendy, but nonetheless many people ship them together; heck, recent production have even touched that angle: Hook has Peter clearly heartbroken that Wendy has outaged him by a lot – he even marries her granddaughter as a next-best-thing thing – and in 2003’s Peter Pan the love he has for Wendy is very obvious, but faithful to the original he gives up on her so he can stay a perpetual immature youth. ONCE loves to do a different spin on the classic stories, so Peter/Wendy ending up together would be a rather nice touch.
Oh, and I hope Wendy was being truthful to Bae in Second Star to the Right. I find a Wendy strong enough to challenge Peter far more interesting than a brainless minion one doing a show for the sake of Peter’s charms.
October 6, 2013 at 10:14 am #214220PheeParticipantWhat age is our Pan supposed to be stuck at? I’m wanting to say that an article somewhere had K&H refer to him as a 15 year old, but might be completely making that up? I know the actor is 18, (many fans are rejoicing that he’s legal :lol:), but what about the character? I’ve had it in my head for a while that when he see Wendy again she’ll be about 20, which is why they cast a 19 year old. If so, and if they’re trying to pass Pan off as perpetually 15, then they’d be squicky as a pair.
I’ve also had it in my head that if she’s in NL, she’s being held prisoner there. I guess there’d potentially be shades of Rumbelle to it, (which could be a fun little parallel story if Pan and Rumple do end up being brothers), and if Wendy’s been held there for a really long time, perhaps she’s realised there’s good in Pan, the way Belle saw good in Rumple. Difference is though, Belle has never been shown as being scared of Rumple, she’s always been defiant and self assured. Can’t say the same for Wendy when she came back from NL and was talking to Bae. So unless those tears and the trembling voice were all an act, I just dunno if I could get behind the idea of Wendy and Pan becoming a pair.
October 6, 2013 at 10:26 am #214222RumplesGirlKeymasterWhat age is our Pan supposed to be stuck at? I’m wanting to say that an article somewhere had K&H refer to him as a 15 year old, but might be completely making that up? I know the actor is 18, (many fans are rejoicing that he’s legal 😆 ), but what about the character? I’ve had it in my head for a while that when he see Wendy again she’ll be about 20, which is why they cast a 19 year old. If so, and if they’re trying to pass Pan off as perpetually 15, then they’d be squicky as a pair.
I’m almost certain that PP is stuck at the age of 17.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 6, 2013 at 10:36 am #214224DemiletoParticipantI’m almost certain that PP is stuck at the age of 17.
I see it that way as well.
I’ve also had it in my head that if she’s in NL, she’s being held prisoner there. I guess there’d potentially be shades of Rumbelle to it, (which could be a fun little parallel story if Pan and Rumple do end up being brothers), and if Wendy’s been held there for a really long time, perhaps she’s realised there’s good in Pan, the way Belle saw good in Rumple. Difference is though, Belle has never been shown as being scared of Rumple, she’s always been defiant and self assured. Can’t say the same for Wendy when she came back from NL and was talking to Bae. So unless those tears and the trembling voice were all an act, I just dunno if I could get behind the idea of Wendy and Pan becoming a pair.
True, but she was 13 years old and quite naive then. I’m kinda hoping a few years of aging and a few decades in Neverland turn her into Katniss Everdeen, so to speak.
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