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Peter Pan’s Connection to the Home Office

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  • July 31, 2013 at 5:20 pm #202715
    Marty McFly
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    I think the big bad is NOT Peter Pan. especially now that we know he is a boy not a man.

    I think that Rumpelstiltskin is Peter Pan  all grown up. and the HE is some horrible being that rrrriiippps shadows and makes them his workers who don’t allow boys off the island. I think Peter Pan was also his victim but he somehow got away and grew up but the HE wanted revenge so he went after his kids.

    Thete are BIG parallels between Hook the movie and OUAT.

    1) Peter pan (the adult) was a lawyer

    2)Peter pan the adult) was afraid to fly on the airplane

    3)Peter Pan (the adult) wanted to be a father more than anything – it was his only happy thought

    4)hook (or the shadow) took PP’s kids so that PP come to neverland

    4)the key to hook’s revenge was to make PP’s son hate him and love Hook (THIS is a phenomena: why did Neal spend his life running from his father? this is a BIG change from the Baelfire who loved his father and looked for a way to bring him back UNLESS hook brainwashed him against his father saying that only his mother was great and his father was horrible

    hook was depressed that his worthy foe PP was not what he used to be and wanted to kill himself — OUAT hook seemed to have a death wish too – while with Cora and goading Rumpel while Rumpel beat him up and he didn’t even fight back. if not for Belle, he’d have killed Hook

    when Rumpel was a coward and refused to fight Hook (we know it was because he didn’t want to die and leave his son parentless but still… if he would have remembered that he was PP he’d fight)

     

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    July 31, 2013 at 6:21 pm #202722
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Here’s the problem with that theory: We have a Peter Pan. Someone has been cast AS Peter Pan. Now this is not to say that Rumple couldn’t be a “Pan” but I don’t know if A and E would so blatenly rip off a movie (Hook) this is NOT Disney or ABC owned

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 31, 2013 at 6:44 pm #202723
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    Which is why it took them so long to get the movie rights for pp. for all other fairy tales they didn’t need to clear leagal issues
    Besides, if rumpel is the adult pp, there has to be a back story with the little pp, no?

    July 31, 2013 at 6:49 pm #202725
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Yes, but getting the rights to PP is always tricky. This is getting the rights to a story that first had to get the rights to PP. And I don’t know if Sony would grant Disney/ABC (a huge competitor) freedom to adapt THAT story. Also, I think it’s making the story a little too complex. It has to be watchable to the average viewer and suddenly making Rumple a Pan or Peter Pan is a little much when he is already Rumple, Ella’s FGM, The Beast, The Crocodile.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 31, 2013 at 7:58 pm #202727
    Josephine
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    If Rumple is Peter Pan then they’d have to do some kind of time travel where he’s in two places at once.  When Bae is dragged on shore by the Lost Boys in “And Straight on Till Morning” they specifically say Peter Pan’s name.  At this point, Rumple is the Dark One.  If Rumple=Pan, he wouldn’t go after the boy who was his downfall, he’d go right to the main one he wants–his son.  They’d have a picture of Baelfire to search for. 

    I don’t think they’re going to touch Hook.  Like RG said, it’s another production company, not part of the original Peter Pan rights which belong to a hospital and are extremely complicated (I’ve mentioned Disney’s rights for Tinker Bell are under a different contract than Peter Pan and why she’s so heavily marketed more easily than PP).  I’m not shocked that Rufio isn’t going to exist because he’s only in Hook.  The character doesn’t exist in the source material.

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    July 31, 2013 at 8:02 pm #202728
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    A and E have already said no Time Travel. *puts fingers in ears and hums because she knows someone is going to go..”but The Return speech from Rumple”…*

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 31, 2013 at 11:00 pm #202738
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    So if they won’t touch ‘hook’ rumpel can’t be pp. but I still think pp is the victim here. There is no way ‘the dark one’ would consider a kid anyone they all should fear.
    Maybe he is the brother then…

    July 31, 2013 at 11:02 pm #202739
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    All those parallels I mentioned were from ‘hook’

    July 31, 2013 at 11:08 pm #202742
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    Hey, maybe the drawing we saw at the end of henry is not actually a picture of henry himself but a picture of young rumpel/pp brother. Pp might be looking for his brother refusing to believe that this brother grew up

    July 31, 2013 at 11:13 pm #202743
    Josephine
    Participant

    That’s an idea. We don’t know what Rumple looked like as a child. One possibility is Peter Pan, from living in Neverland, has a messed up concept of time and could be hunting his supposed brother, or just Rumple, but nets the grandson instead.

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

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