Picture of Henry

[Myril]

@Jcbk wrote:

Hi. First time poster. I was thinking that it isn’t that time works differently in neverland …it’s that it doesn’t work at all. It’s stuck in time. Or there is no time. Maybe like SB. So it’s linear to all time lines? Maybe it has its own curse?

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Interesting idea, that time in Neverland doesn’t work at all, or is sort frozen has it had been for the people in Storybrooke. I would say, in SB only the people were frozen in time, not actually SB itself (well, they had cellphones, so progress happened there), but that is detail. Neverland though could be a whole realm frozen in time, maybe. No time is unlikely, because, well, no time means the end of distinction, end of life. Time is besides space the one thing that makes sure we’re not one big undistinguishable nothing. 😉

Temporal mechanics can give headaches even after years of science fiction geeking out. 😆

*Goes to prepare some cookies and hot chocolate with cinnamon* Looks we will need it, plenty of comfort eating for months of discussions, speculations and crazyness to come.

[Cr8gr8things]

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Yes that makes more sense of course.. I’m just thinking some sort of frozen time is likely because It is called never land after all. Where you Never grow up 😉 Of course this might just be part of the magic. So many possibilities. It could be connected to the prophecy and maybe they want to lure Emma to NL as a “mother”. … Or the wraiths or gold …or something totally unrelated.

I might go crazy this summer !!. …I’m going crazy all ready!

[belle of the ball]

I love the idea of Neverland not having any time. Wendy said that she felt like she had been gone much longer than one night, though Bae confirmed that was all she was missing for. It would make sense that it perhaps took the entirety of a night to fly Wendy to Neverland and back, but while she was there, time stood still.

What still gets me is how they had a picture of Henry possibly hundreds of years before he was born. I like the idea of Neverland being created to fetch the Dark One’s undoing and magic would allow a picture to be composed of the boy in question. However, Rumple would then have something to do with the creation of Neverland, so wouldn’t he have known when he pricked his finger and the map appeared exactly what the land was he was looking at?

[Slurpeez]

@astrawoid wrote:

@sjm wrote:

I don’t see how they could have a picture of Henry without someone seeing him. Of course, I think someone mentioned that maybe there is a prophecy we don’t know about, a seer who has seen, but someone had to draw that picture. Of course, Hook had a sketch of Milah…

Ok, this is a big stretch but maybe the picture we assume is Henry is actually a picture of the original PP?

😮 The doppelgänger effect! 😯
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelgänger

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@Jbwood5 wrote:

@Jcbk wrote:

Hi. First time poster. I was thinking that it isn’t that time works differently in neverland …it’s that it doesn’t work at all. It’s stuck in time. Or there is no time. Maybe like SB. So it’s linear to all time lines? Maybe it has its own curse?

That would be really interesting. Since Henry was the one who kick started the quest to break the Storybrooke curse maybe he is prophecied to break the neverland curse. Maybe instead of Peter Pan never wanting to grow up he just can’t because of the curse and needs Henry’s help. Would explain why he has ordered Greg and Tamara to destroy magic. He feels like magic has trap him to live as a child for all eternity.

You guys have such great ideas. Slurpeez108 too. I like the idea that there is no time and they are traveling to times. If NL were the ultimate representation of Jefferson’s hat, I wonder if when you are standing looking at all the doors you are suspended in time?

[gypsy]

What if the doors in Jefferson’s hat represent books. Whatever ‘door’ you go through, it’s really like opening the book of that particluar story – regardless of what time you are in, you go through the door/book. – you are in the time the book is set in.

[RumplesGirl]

@Gypsy wrote:

What if the doors in Jefferson’s hat represent books. Whatever ‘door’ you go through, it’s really like opening the book of that particluar story – regardless of what time you are in, you go through the door/book. – you are in the time the book is set in.

Kinda like the Neverending Story where the story continue even when you aren’t reading? And then you can enter where the story itself is in its own telling? (The last part may not be from the Neverending Story, it’s been many years since I saw that…)

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[gypsy]

Kinda like the Neverending Story where the story continue even when you aren’t reading? And then you can enter where the story itself is in its own telling?

Something like that 🙂

That premise also mirrors Stephen King’s “The Dark Tower” – (which they already borrowed from).

[huskydwarf]

I just emailed this to the Podcast crew, but I thought I;d share it here as well:

There obviously seems to be a time-discontinuity if the Lost Ones had a perfect picture of Henry nearly 300 years before his birth. Sunday afternoon, I was watching the movie Star Trek: Generations. The plot of the movie involves Tolian Soran attempting to return to a temporal energy ribbon known as the Nexus. Inside the Nexus, time as you know it no longer exists… much like Neverland. And also like Neverland, it is nearly impossible to leave once you have entered. The main difference is that people never want to leave the Nexus because it is described as being like “inside joy.” Neverland, as we have found, is full of people who long to leave, but cannot. In Star Trek: Generations, Captain Picard meets Captain Kirk and they will themselves out of the Nexus. Being that the Nexus exists outside time as we know it, they are actually able to travel back in time.

Could it be that because Neverland’s time is much different than all the other magical, and non-magical, realms anyone who enters Neverland can exit to other points in time? Could this explain how Henry’s pictures existed 300 years in the past? Could “Peter Pan” really be someone we’ve already met but has somehow traveled through time?

[RumplesGirl]

It’s an interesting theory and I love Star Trek and we all know H and K are nerds. But they have said so many times that there is no time travel, but that time works differently in different lands. But of course, we have to account for the fact that Nealfire traveled through space and time to London, according to Rumple in the episode the Return.
If Peter is already someone we’ve met…then who?

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