Pied Piper and dreams in mythology

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We know children visit Neverland in their dreams. Here’s another possible connection to Pan as the Pied Piper. In Greek mythology, the goddess Iris wore a pied robe. In the tale of Ceyx and Halcyone, Iris was sent by Juno to convince Somnus, the god of sleep, (“…gentlest of the gods, tranquillizer of minds and soother of care worn hearts”) to give a dream to Halcyone that would tell her that her husband, King Ceyx, had drowned in a shipwreck. Somnus sent his son Morpheus to appear in a dream to Halcyone and give her the bad news.  I’m wondering if the pied coat from the Pied Piper story may have some significance forthe pied robe of Iris and dreams in this story as well.

 

Regardless of the Pied Piper and mythology connection, the role of dreams in Neverland may be more important than we have previously considered. We’ve always wondered how the stories of these characters got to our world. What if the ideas for Peter Pan, Snow White, Frankenstein, and all the others came to the authors in our world through dreams that originated in Neverland? We know time works differently in Neverland, so the time when the stories were first written need not be a problem.

[Grimmsister]

I also have wondered alot about how dreams may play a larger role for the Once universe. Since fairytales and dreams traditionally has alot to do with eatchother, I dont see the problem of “what came first”- Henrys storybook/the fairytales or our characters life experiences, as some on these boards have discussed for awhile. I see the characters from the Enchanted Forest a.b. as arctypes from the shared consciencness of humans, though they doo try to break free of their stereotypiness 😉 (yes, I doo know thats not a real word) So in a sence the magical other Worlds from Once, might be more intricatly connected to the World of dreams, but I guess we will have to wait for more evidence before we can say for sure.

About your theory on the pied coats being a tie to the Greek myths, I dont really see that. perhabs its just a coinsedence that they Wear pied caots on both those stories…

[kfchimera]

Peter pan implied his dreams come true, a huge motto of Disney-verse, inspired by their animated version of Pinocchio

–“when you wish upon a star..”

When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to you

If your heart is in your dream
No request is too extreme
When you wish upon a star
As dreamers do

Fate is kind
She brings to those who love
The sweet fulfillment of
Their secret longing

Like a bolt out of the blue
Fate steps in and sees you through
When you wish upon a star
Your dreams come true

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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Ahhhh KFC – you just cited my favorite song! I read that Cliff Edwards, who was the voice of Jiminy Cricket, sadly died penniless and was going to be buried in an unmarked grave until Disney stepped in and paid his funeral expenses.

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