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In a lot of the fan fiction, Belle’s father is portrayed as guilty in both worlds: guilty for having ordered Belle’s “purification” in FTL and guilty for having placed her in Regina’s secret mental ward in SB. We haven’t been shown yet just how much responsibility he bears, but what do you think?
[adrotate group="5"]I don’t know. I don’t think she really ever made it back to her father’s place. Someone over at Fanforum brought up that Belle’s story also follows “East of the Sun, West of the Moon” and in order to get back to her true love she has to go on a quest. That maybe on that quest, which we may have seen her on in Dreamy, she gets captured by the Evil Queen. I do think Regina had her when she paid Rumple a visit at the end of “Skin Deep”. The thing was, when did she capture her.
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I don’t think Maurice/Mo harmed his daughter in either world. I think that Regina completely made up the story in FTL and locked her up in SB. I don’t have any proof for this, but we all know Regina is very capable of doing that and more. Also, I don’t think that Regina captured Belle in FTL. I think she just made sure she was imprisoned as part of the curse, the same way that she made special provisions for Maleficent and Jefferson. Again, no proof for this, just a hunch.
BTW, cute name for this thread!I think that maybe the dad did order her to be beaten, but before all of those horrible things in the tower really happened, Regina captured her.
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I don’t think Maurice/Mo harmed his daughter in either world. I think that Regina completely made up the story in FTL and locked her up in SB. I don’t have any proof for this, but we all know Regina is very capable of doing that and more. Also, I don’t think that Regina captured Belle in FTL. I think she just made sure she was imprisoned as part of the curse, the same way that she made special provisions for Maleficent and Jefferson. Again, no proof for this, just a hunch.
BTW, cute name for this thread!I agree. Belle told Rumpel how she had wanted to see the world and I think that’s what she started doing.When the curse hit, it locked Belle away because that would take away her happy ending. She and Rumpel were already apart so, unlike Snow and Charming who the curse tore apart, taking away Belle’s true love wouldn’t have been effective, keeping Belle locked up was.
As for Maurice, I don’t think he would ever hurt Belle intentionally. Even though he was desperate to stop the ogres, he turned Rumpel away when he said he wanted Belle in exchange for his help. As far as Maurice was concerned, Belle was still with Rumpel whilst Rumpel believed her to be dead so neither one was looking for Belle. Belle spoke to Grumpy in “Dreamy” and that was sometime after she left Rumpel and there was no indication that anyone was after her. After Regina told Rumpel about Belle’s death and he accused her of lying, she replied “Am I?” She neither confirmed nor denied what she was saying was true but let Rumpel draw his own conclusions which he did.
In Storybrooke, I don’t think Moe was even aware he had a daughter but now that his memories are back, I can see him and Rumpel clashing over Belle especially if Maurice/Moe thinks Rumpel has bewitched Belle into loving him.
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Keeper of FelixPoor Moe, that is if he didn’t do all that to Belle. His daughter voluntarily left to save the village and he would never see her again. Then the curse hits. So now as a man with no memories of his former life, he’s tricked by the mayor into stealing from the most powerful man in town. Then that same man beats him almost to death while screaming stuff about “her” that he had no idea what he’s talking about. Then his memories are lifted. Just think, he’ll probably thinking, “Rumplestiltskin…Belle…beating…wtf….gone…,” and so on. I think he’ll try to seek her out after the dust settles and it becomes known that Gold has a “friend” now. Who knows, maybe she’ll seek he father out. I would love to see the meeting between Gold and Moe. However, if Maurice did order all the stuff on Belle, I don’t care if Gold lets loose again on that guys…behind.
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I also don’t think Maurice would hurt her–at least intentionally. He seemed quite unwilling to let Rumpelstiltskin take Belle–he ordered Rumpelstiltskin out of his castle, and then later begged Belle not to go with him. He seemed very saddened by the deal. From the way they talked to each other, they seemed very loving and close. It would seem out of character for him to suddenly shun her and treat her with cruel behavior.
1). Belle never made it back to the castle. No doubt she may have slowed down to travel, but I think she would have eventually returned to her father to ease his worry after she was done with her journey. But on her way back to her father’s, or during her time seeing the world, she was captured by the Queen and imprisoned.
2). Belle never got captured, and was simply locked away as part of her unhappy ending. This could also be a possibility, though doubtful. The Queen would probably want to capture Belle quickly, just in case Rumpelstiltskin decided to investigate the story. But she may have by then known that Rumpelstiltskin was working on the curse, so she may not have been in any hurry.
3). The Queen may have convinced Maurice to give her Belle. It is not hard to picture the Queen coming to Maurice and spinning a wild tale about Belle being corrupted, and the the Queen was the only one who could help her. And I could see Maurice believing the Queen–she is very good at tricking people, and manipulation.
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@LisaFromOH wrote:
I don’t think Maurice/Mo harmed his daughter in either world. I think that Regina completely made up the story in FTL and locked her up in SB. I don’t have any proof for this, but we all know Regina is very capable of doing that and more. Also, I don’t think that Regina captured Belle in FTL. I think she just made sure she was imprisoned as part of the curse, the same way that she made special provisions for Maleficent and Jefferson. Again, no proof for this, just a hunch.
BTW, cute name for this thread!As for Maurice, I don’t think he would ever hurt Belle intentionally. Even though he was desperate to stop the ogres, he turned Rumpel away when he said he wanted Belle in exchange for his help. As far as Maurice was concerned, Belle was still with Rumpel whilst Rumpel believed her to be dead so neither one was looking for Belle.
In Storybrooke, I don’t think Moe was even aware he had a daughter but now that his memories are back, I can see him and Rumpel clashing over Belle especially if Maurice/Moe thinks Rumpel has bewitched Belle into loving him.
I agree with all of this. Maurice doesn’t strike me as being someone who doesn’t care about the welfare of his child. If he wasn’t willing to let Belle go with Rumple willingly, I seriously doubt he would be able to order his own daughter to be imprisoned. Even if Rumple explained himself for his behavior towards Maurice, I seriously doubt it would smooth things over with him or Belle.
As for Regina coming over to Maurice’s place and trying to convince him to hand over Belle because of being “corrupted,” I don’t think he’d buy it. Being the “Ruler” of a town, I think he’d have a better BS detector than Belle (I don’t think she took part in the day-to-day management of her town). If he had just got his daughter back from losing her once (from Rumple of all people), I doubt he would just hand her over to someone else.
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Maurice doesn’t strike me as being someone who doesn’t care about the welfare of his child. If he wasn’t willing to let Belle go with Rumple willingly, I seriously doubt he would be able to order his own daughter to be imprisoned. Even if Rumple explained himself for his behavior towards Maurice, I seriously doubt it would smooth things over with him or Belle.
As for Regina coming over to Maurice’s place and trying to convince him to hand over Belle because of being “corrupted,” I don’t think he’d buy it. Being the “Ruler” of a town, I think he’d have a better BS detector than Belle (I don’t think she took part in the day-to-day management of her town). If he had just got his daughter back from losing her once (from Rumple of all people), I doubt he would just hand her over to someone else.
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I’ve never even entertained the possibility that Maurice did anything to hurt his daughter. Regina just made the whole story up IMO. I think she already had Belle locked away when she went to tell Rumple that story. She knows Rumple can flit all over FTL at will, so it’d be too risky to have Belle roaming around where Rumple could find her and discover Regina had lied to him.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Moe had memories of losing his daughter, believing that she’d left town to run off with some guy. Once he remembers who he is, and his true history, and who Mr Gold is, I would imagine that he’ll assume Belle is still with him, (which she conveniently will be), and he’ll want to get her back.
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