Ponderings and Wonderings

[PriceofMagic]

When Belle made her deal with Rumple and he emphasised that “It’s forever, dearie”-did he literally mean forever in which case Belle would’ve stopped aging so she could’ve served him “forever” or did he mean until the day she died? How tragic Rumbelle would be if Rumple stayed immortal whilst having to watch Belle grow old and die.

Why hasn’t Belle been sent back to the basement instead of the nurse coming up to her? There is nothing physically wrong with Belle other than her memory loss so why is she still in hospital being sedated?

Speaking of the basement, is the nurse assigned to keep a close watch on Belle and sedate her when she starts to kick off or does the nurse go back to the basement to tend to the other patients there such as Sidney Glass?

If Bae was in Neverland as has been stongly hinted in one of the promos, could Rumple have reached there using Jefferson’s hat, thus avoiding the use of the dark curse?

Could Regina perhaps enlist Tamara as her ally against Emma? Both stand to lose someone they love to Emma. Regina loses Henry and Tamara could lose Neal.

When the seer talked about Henry reuniting Rumple and Bae. What does she class as reunited? Rumple and Bae are together again but they’re hardly reunited. As for Henry being Rumple’s undoing, is this a self fulfilling prophesy that no matter what Rumple does, this will come true?

That’s all I can think of for now. Feel free to add your own ponderings and wonderings.

[spinninggold]

If Bae was in Neverland as has been stongly hinted in one of the promos, could Rumple have reached there using Jefferson’s hat, thus avoiding the use of the dark curse?

I think it might have to do (or at least, writers if you are reading this you can use it) … A seer sees across time, but in Neverland there is no time. So Rumpel could not see him when he was there, only when he’s on earth.
I’m more surprised that Rumpel is not in the least surprised that Smee and Hook are still alive. And Rumpel dear, did you not say you never break a deal? Deal with Smee was that if he did not deliver, you’d turn the clock forward and turn him to dust. Why then did you turn him into a rat instead?
Oh and I am curious, if Archie has Pongo, than who has Perdita? And when will she and Archie fall in love? Anyone join me for a 101-ship? 😆 Would make a lovely filler episode in season 3, maybe together with a spoof, where the characters all sit down on Archie’s couch to bemoan how Disney misrepresents them, ending with Perdita’s boss.

[PriceofMagic]

@SpinningGold wrote:

And Rumpel dear, did you not say you never break a deal? Deal with Smee was that if he did not deliver, you’d turn the clock forward and turn him to dust. Why then did you turn him into a rat instead?

Technically Smee did deliver on the bean. Hook and Milah just got to him first. Rumple turned Smee into a rat because he “ratted” out Belle and Rumple to Hook.

Oh and I am curious, if Archie has Pongo, than who has Perdita? And when will she and Archie fall in love? Anyone join me for a 101-ship? 😆 Would make a lovely filler episode in season 3, maybe together with a spoof, where the characters all sit down on Archie’s couch to bemoan how Disney misrepresents them, ending with Perdita’s boss.

Where was Pongo before the curse or is he a true resident of Storybrooke? Archie seems to have taken the place of Roger as Pongo’s owner so another fairytale character may take the place of Anita as Perdita’s owner. Perhaps a couple (Roger and Anita) with their dalmation (Perdita) will recognise Pongo as the dog they lost before the curse?

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[laurieanne]

I love the idea of Perdita’s “mom” being a love interest for Archie. The 101ship!! I am wondering:
How did Regina lose custody of Henry? I have watched those episodes to try to gain understanding but it seems as if, once Emma returned from FTL, it was just assumed that Henry would live with Emma instead of Regina. Did the breaking of the curse nullify the adoption? Or was there not an official adoption? Did Regina just “obtain” Henry from Rumple (with help I am sure) and not do it legally?

[spinninggold]

@LaurieAnne wrote:

I love the idea of Perdita’s “mom” being a love interest for Archie. The 101ship!! I am wondering:
How did Regina lose custody of Henry? I have watched those episodes to try to gain understanding but it seems as if, once Emma returned from FTL, it was just assumed that Henry would live with Emma instead of Regina. Did the breaking of the curse nullify the adoption? Or was there not an official adoption? Did Regina just “obtain” Henry from Rumple (with help I am sure) and not do it legally?

I think poisoning him with the apple turnover that was meant for Emma and nearly killing him made the adoption null and void. After that, even if she wanted Henry back, no one in town would have supported her, and since Henry wanted to be with his family, no one questioned it. She might still legally be his mother, but there is no way she could enforce this with the town against her.

The really creepy question is what does her mother want from her? She is truly heartless in every way, and I have the creepy suspicion that she has something to gain from Regina. I get the creepy feeling she does not just want rule her daughter’s life, but that when the time comes, she wants to become her, as in kill her and take over her body.

[laurieanne]

I have thought the same thing about Cora – right now she is just creeping me out with all of her “Good idea, Regina” and all of that. I do not think she has love for Regina, or if she does, it is well hidden. I believe Regina is on to Cora to some extent, but she still loves her. It is really hard to stop loving your mom, and I think that is a huge part of Regina’s story. The perfect time to introduce Cora’s back story and get her some sympathy (if possible!)!! That is definitely something to ponder….what does Cora want ultimately? POWER. I love the idea of her trying to become Regina, though – every time Regina is in a scene away from Cora, I think “Is that Regina…or is it Cora masquerading as Regina??”

[jessieparadoxes of people]

For the adoption,I don’t think it was legal and binding.Maybe Mr.Gold(or whoever he used)may have presented papers and such to the people directly involved with letting Regina take Henry,but then prevented higher authorities from ever even hearing about the adoption or Henry?As for the Belle/Forever ordeal…..very,very good point!!! ❓ …….I think he just meant till she died.Remember,he wasn’t expecting to fall in love with her.Perhaps he was thinking in his subconscious if he decided he liked her and that she was worth keeping around,he would make her immortal.It’s a perfectly real thought process….And I totally agree w/ u guys about Cora!!!!! I think there may be just a spark of love for Regina,but her lust for power or whatever she wants holds more priority.She might feel a twinge of guilt over her actions and therefore tries to do something nice for Regina…as long as it benefits her as well!!!!A win-win:Cora improves Regina’s opinion of her while also developing on her own plans!!!

Keeper of King George's Coat of arms;Tiny's pickaxe;Belle's bronze vase;Emma Hacker device and true love kiss to Henry;Granny's surcharge on pickles;Snow's "Good will always win;Regina's apple turnover;Gold's pink shirt,Mickey phone,&glasses(1x12);RQ's chess set,and Chip's shattered remains

[spinninggold]

The thing that creeps me out about Cora is that every time she pretends to be loving and understanding, she comes across as totally believeable, but it turns out to be a lie. And them there is the scene where she says to Regina: You don’t know about all the deals I had to make to get you back (or something like that). And it just sounded sooo possesive, not at all loving.
Oh another pondering… Where is Cora’s heart?

[Killian Jones]

@LaurieAnne wrote:

I love the idea of Perdita’s “mom” being a love interest for Archie. The 101ship!! I am wondering:
How did Regina lose custody of Henry? I have watched those episodes to try to gain understanding but it seems as if, once Emma returned from FTL, it was just assumed that Henry would live with Emma instead of Regina. Did the breaking of the curse nullify the adoption? Or was there not an official adoption? Did Regina just “obtain” Henry from Rumple (with help I am sure) and not do it legally?

Remember in Broken when David took custody of Henry after Henry said that he didn’t want to stay with Regina anymore? Then in We are Both Regina gave up custody to David again after she used magic to get him back. After that Regina went on this mission to redeem herself but David still had custody now when Emma’s back she just took over but there was nothing more formal than that. We haven’t seen Henry’s initial adoption so who knows how formal that was to start with.

[jessieparadoxes of people]

You’re right,she is very posessive……as for her heart–I truly don’t know.There is a thread on that I believe under 2×09″Queen of Hearts.But in the RoundTable podcast,they were joking about what if they brought in video game characters.I know this absurdity,but I thought it would be funny if the writers put in a little nod to the epic game “Kingdom Hearts”!!!There are these monsters called the Heartless.When darkness consumes a person’s heart(either in a metaphorical and literal sense),the heart is taken from the person and the darkness takes on a definite form of a monster–a Heartless,some are big and strong,others are weak.When you defeat a Heartless,it releases the heart.Cora could rip out her heart and put it into darkness,causing the darkness to assume the form of a powerful Heartless.The Heartless would then protect the heart.Of course I don’t know if the Heartless would control Cora…..again just absurdity 🙂

Keeper of King George's Coat of arms;Tiny's pickaxe;Belle's bronze vase;Emma Hacker device and true love kiss to Henry;Granny's surcharge on pickles;Snow's "Good will always win;Regina's apple turnover;Gold's pink shirt,Mickey phone,&glasses(1x12);RQ's chess set,and Chip's shattered remains

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