Pot Holes Questions

[kfchimera]

Also, I meant, that within the Land Without Magic it has been established that a magical item (a ship, a scarf) retained their magical properties even though not inside the “magic” bubble of Storybrooke, and that random magical items (the ring, the hat, the apple) worked inside SB before Rumpel’s spell to bring back the ability to create new magic inside SB. So Pino was sort of like a magical item.

[HappyEndings]

Except Regina didn’t know how the book ended so how would Jefferson know about ending and what happened to Emma ❓

[RumplesGirl]

@HappyEndings wrote:

Except Regina didn’t know how the book ended so how would Jefferson know about ending and what happened to Emma ❓

I believe that is where August might come in.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[gypsy]

Except Regina didn’t know how the book ended so how would Jefferson know about ending and what happened to Emma

In 7:15 am, Regina says to Emma that August looks familiar.
I don’t recall Regina having any contact with young Pinocchio pre – curse and, even if she did, adult Pinocchio doesn’t look anything like he did when he was little.
So, why does August look familiar to Regina?
I think it’s because he visited SB at least once before we know of (when we see him arrive in True North)
I think he was there 10 years prior (before he went to NY) and talked to Jefferson.
I think August told Jefferson about Emma, him and the wardrobe and Jefferson told August about about Neal being Bae (because I think Jefferson, at some point before the curse, realm jumped to NL and met up with Bae and Bae told Jefferson his story).
Again, all part of why I think Jefferson wrote the book 🙂

[HappyEndings]

I still not on board with Jefferson meeting Bae in NL, the rest I kind of agree with. 😕

[gypsy]

I still not on board with Jefferson meeting Bae in NL, the rest I kind of agree with.

Someone had to know that Bae was Neal and that he was in NY in order for August to know that.
Regina and Jefferson were the only two with their memories and I don’t think Regina was the one to tell August anything.
Plus, if Jefferson wrote the book, would explain the typewriter that August had and used to convince Neal why he had to leave Emma.
August said he was a writer, but, Pinocchio was good at lying.
I don’t think August was really a writer. I think he got the typewriter from Jefferson when he was in SB the first time around.

[Demileto]

@Gypsy wrote:

Someone had to know that Bae was Neal and that he was in NY in order for August to know that.
Regina and Jefferson were the only two with their memories and I don’t think Regina was the one to tell August anything.
Plus, if Jefferson wrote the book, would explain the typewriter that August had and used to convince Neal why he had to leave Emma.
August said he was a writer, but, Pinocchio was good at lying.
I don’t think August was really a writer. I think he got the typewriter from Jefferson when he was in SB the first time around.

August wouldn’t need anyone to tell him that Neal was Bae if he’d met him previously. 🙂

I’ve theorized – and there’s been good acceptance on this forum to the theory – that Neverland will stand in for the Pleasure Island chapter of Pinocchio’s life. Both the show’s Neverland and Pleasure Island are islands that are apparently the most fun place ever for a child to be but are actually dark and depressing places where you’ll find yourself imprisoned, never to see your family again, it’d be very fitting to have both be the same place in Onceverse and it’d provide a simple and elegant explanation for August knowing who Neal was: he met him in NL before his turn into a real boy, when he was just a wooden puppet. August then would have no problem recognize 23/24 year old Neal as being 14/15 year old Baelfire, but Neal would’ve never guessed the man in front of him was once the 7-year-old wooden puppet he met in NL.

I really need to put this into a thread of its own, kind of hard for people to keep track of it between multiple threads! 🙂

[HappyEndings]

I think it is one of the BF, Fairies that knew because of the preparation the BF said she had to do before the curse. Also, the fact that Emma wished on a Blue Star not to be alone on her birthday. Maybe between the BF/Fairies and Jefferson they worked on this together since the BF knew about the dagger. I also still think BF did somethng to trigger her memory something like what Rumble did using Emma’s name to get his memory back, the BF must had the same thing because why would she be so coy with Rumble when asked what August wanted when he was in town, and she knew Rumble didn’t like the nuns.

Also, the fact when Rumble confronted August when tried to use the dagger on him and August stated that a “Little Fairy told him”

[gypsy]

I’ve theorized – and there’s been good acceptance on this forum to the theory – that Neverland will stand in for the Pleasure Island chapter of Pinocchio’s life. Both the show’s Neverland and Pleasure Island are islands that are apparently the most fun place ever for a child to be but are actually dark and depressing places where you’ll find yourself imprisoned, never to see your family again, it’d be very fitting to have both be the same place in Onceverse and it’d provide a simple and elegant explanation for August knowing who Neal was: he met him in NL before his turn into a real boy, when he was just a wooden puppet. August then would have no problem recognize 23/24 year old Neal as being 14/15 year old Baelfire, but Neal would’ve never guessed the man in front of him was once the 7-year-old wooden puppet he met in NL.

I really need to put this into a thread of its own, kind of hard for people to keep track of it between multiple threads!

I do like the theory that August/Pino went to NL. And it still doesn’t cancel out the fact that he could have been in SB at least once before we saw him arrive.

And, I know what you mean. I posted my theory on here back in December and I find myself posting bits and pieces of it here and there for dif reasons lol 🙂

[Demileto]

@Gypsy wrote:

I do like the theory that August/Pino went to NL. And it still doesn’t cancel out the fact that he could have been in SB at least once before we saw him arrive.

I don’t disagree with that, I’m just saying that August and Neal didn’t necessarily need an intermediary to be presented to each other prior to “Tallahasse”. 🙂

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