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May 23, 2013 at 11:02 pm #195877HappyEndingsSpectator
You missed the point about Jimmy Cricket he was always around Pinocchio when he was a wooden boy and a real boy in the true story about Pinocchio so what happened to the Cricket ❓
[adrotate group="5"]May 23, 2013 at 11:07 pm #195878RumplesGirlKeymaster@HappyEndings wrote:
You missed the point about Jimmy Cricket he was always around Pinocchio when he was a wooden boy and a real boy in the true story about Pinocchio so what happened to the Cricket ❓
My memory of the Disney movie is also a bit fuzzy, but I don’t believe Jiminy goes to Pleasure Island with Pinocchio. Also, they don’t follow the stories/movies word for word, plot point by plot point. In Once, it’s very possible that Jiminy was closer to Gepetto than Pinocchio (actually, he was. We know this. Even in SB, Archie is best friends with Marco, not August). They don’t need to work Jiminy Cricket into this storyline, it could simply be that Pinocchio, while out exploring the world and getting into heaps of trouble, was taken to NL by the Shadow. He was returned to the EF by the Shadow because Peter Pan didn’t want him in NL for the reasons I’ve already listed.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 23, 2013 at 11:15 pm #195879HappyEndingsSpectatorPinocchio and Jiminy arrive at Geppetto’s workshop to find that the old woodcutter has left, along with Figaro and Cleo. A message from the Blue Fairy informs Pinocchio of his father’s location: searching for his son, he had been swallowed by Monstro, an enormous whale. Pinocchio resolves to save Geppetto; though Jiminy tries to warn him against it, he accompanies the wooden boy. Tying a rock to his donkey tail, Pinocchio plunges to the bottom of the sea and he and Jiminy begin their search for Monstro. Any sea creatures they ask flee at the mere mention of Monstro’s name, and none provide any help. Inside the belly of the whale, Gepetto is in a small boat with Figaro and Cleo. They have nothing to eat; Geppetto fears that, unless Monstro opens his mouth soon, they will starve to death. Monstro wakes from his slumber to surprise a school of tuna, who flee in all directions; Pinocchio and Jiminy see Monstro and, terrified, try to swim to escape; Pinocchio is swallowed but the sprightly Jiminy manages to escape. Pinocchio finds himself on Geppetto’s boat, and the woodcarver’s surprise at his son’s donkey ears and tail is outweighed by his relief at seeing his son again
On that island boys are donkeys not real boys
May 23, 2013 at 11:17 pm #195880RumplesGirlKeymasterOn Pleasure Island the boys become donkeys as they continue to reveal in Pleasure instead of being proper young boys. But again: when does this show follow the movie/original text word for word, plot by plot? They don’t. They use the basic frame and then change it to fit their story needs.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 23, 2013 at 11:29 pm #195883HappyEndingsSpectatorI am sticking with the BF because she stated to Pinocchio’s father that she had to get prepared and since she was the Queen of all the fairies I think she sent or contacted other fairies and got them out of the way of the curse.
Being 7 year old and talking with a 14 year old about Rumple is kind of hard to accept regardless if we really don’t long how Pinocchio was wooden. Who to say that Bae was still there the curse was way after Bae left FL since what he is about 200 years old, and August would be 38 now to much time in between to have this story line work ❓
May 23, 2013 at 11:55 pm #195885RumplesGirlKeymasterI do think the final preparations come into play. I think she may be in touch with Tinkerbell and therefore have knowledge of what PP wants. She could alert Tink that the Curse was about to hit, thus letting her and PP know that it was almost time to send Bae to our world.
Who to say that Bae was still there the curse was way after Bae left FL since what he is about 200 years old, and August would be 38 now to much time in between to have this story line work ❓
We’re almost 99.5% positive that Bae remained 14 for a very long time, meaning he was in NL for a long time–he says as much in Manhattan. We’re also 99.5% sure that he came to our world (for the second time) in 1991. On his wanted poster in Tallahassee, it gave his birthdate year at 1977. That means that in order for him to have come to our world at the age of 14 and but still claim he was born in 1977, he came through in 1991. He came through AFTER the Curse, because the Curse was in 1983.
And I don’t think it’s hard to imagine them talking at all. Pinocchio and Bae have parallel stories, but ones that play differently. Both ran from fathers, but one wants to get back and one wants to never see his father again. In a dark and scary place like NL, people commiserate. They discuss how they ended up in NL."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 24, 2013 at 12:50 am #195887DemiletoParticipantMy memory of Disney’s Pinocchio is quite fuzzy as well, but that’s what wikis are for 🙂 :
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Pinocchio
Anyway, Jiminy DOES follow Pinocchio to Pleasure Island in the cartoon; Lampwick even picks on him for being this party pooper on their unruly fun. At one point Jiminy quits being Pinocchio’s conscience, but after realizing what Pleasure Island did to the boys he ran to Pinocchio’s rescue, leading him to an escape route and taking them out of there.
Now back to the theory of Neverland = Pleasure Island. Who’s to say Jiminy didn’t go there as well like the cartoon? Archie shared absolutely no scenes with Neal in season 2, who’s to say he wouldn’t recognize him as Baelfire right away like August did? Nonetheless, RG is right, the showrunners don’t follow the stories word by word, just because Jiminy did it in the cartoon doesn’t mean he has to do it in Onceverse.
May 24, 2013 at 12:59 am #195888RumplesGirlKeymasterAhhh. Good to know. Jiminy and Gepetto could have been looking for Pinocchio after he was taken to NL or Jiminy could have recruited the BF to help get Pinocchio out of NL, which if the BF is on PP’s side, she would gladly do since PP wouldn’t want Pinocchio there in the first place.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 24, 2013 at 1:04 am #195889HappyEndingsSpectatorYou know what I don’t get is Gepetto didn’t call for the BF when Pinocchio was on the beach but she came anyway but when Snow needed Blue’s help about her mother and without calling the BF which never show what gives 😕
May 24, 2013 at 1:06 am #195890HappyEndingsSpectatorQuestion: Did anyone figure out why Emma had the Blue star on her birthday cake and a Star on her key chain ❓ Is that like the Star of David for her father’s kingdom?
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