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I hope they clarify where they are in the present day because it’s still quite up in the air. To my knowledge, based on deductive reasoning and what all they have shown and mentioned, they should be in late August of 2014, at the lastest and here’s why I believe that.
Going back to season two, in episode 2×15, The Queen is Dead, Snow “celebrated” her birthday and Johanna mentioned that Snow was born in the harshest winters of all in their land and if their seasons are concurrent to ours, then her birthday should fall in January of 2013, as in the same episode, Emma, Henry and Rumplestiltskin are in Manhattan searching for Baelfire and there are no Christmas decorations up, and according to our calendars, Winter begins the week of Christmas, or five days before around the 20th or 21st, and they continued on with the rest of the season leaving on a cliff-hanger at around early February of 2013.
In season three, it was indicated that the Neverland arc took place in about a week or so as we see in episode 3×07, Dark Hollow, it had only been five days from episode 2×22, And Straight on Till Morning to this point in Dark Hollow and then we skipped an entire year entering the winter of 2014 and the second half which took place in a month (Present Day) as Snow was eight months pregnant in the flashback events of 3×19, A Curious Thing and then gave birth in the next episode 3×20, Kansas, which of course, took place in present day and could have been around early-mid February of 2014, not to mention, in episode 3×21, Snow Drifts, there was a flashback to a younger Emma watching yet another child being put into a permanent home and we then jump 18 years later. Emma was stated to be 12, but quite obviously, the actress was FAR from 12, but if it was to be 18 years later, then Emma would be 30, as the show began in October of 2011, on her 28th birthday, which would mean that they would have been well out of 2013.
I’m not 100% sure on the amount of time during the Frozen arc, but but it’s a strong guesstimate that it began around late February/early March of 2014, and there was a six week break and then the second half of season four took place in about 3 1/2 weeks as in episode 4×17, Heart of Gold, there was a mention of it being nine weeks from when Robin left Storybrooke to Regina and Rumple in her vault and he attempting to persuade her to help him “turn Emma dark”, and by the end of season four/beginning of season five, they should be around late May/early June of 2014.
Season five picked up right where the previous season left off and there was a six week jump, which could put them in early-mid July when they returned from Camelot. It was also mentioned in episode 5×05, Dreamcatcher that Henry was 13, which would mean that it had been almost three years since the series began as he was already 10 when he had found Emma in the Pilot, episode 1×01, which again, took place in October of 2011. As for the rest of the season, the time that has passed is still up in the air, but at the very least, they should be beginning a new school year for Henry as he should be entering the 8th grade and Emma should celebrate her 31st birthday some time in season six. Feel free to fill in any gaps I may have missed, for instance this past season, but only for present day since that is our focus in this thread. Thanks. You’re awesome.
[adrotate group="5"]Nice work. You should get in contact with Keb and compare notes.
The writers can’t do Maths so what they say the timeline should be doesn’t necessarily line up with what it would actually work out at.
Frozen presents a huge problem. We know that the Disney movies exist within the show universe eg when Neal told Mulan about a her movie. Therefore Frozen should exist as well. Because the show copied Frozen exactly, why did none of the characters mention or question why there was such an accurate retelling of Elsa’s story or if Frozen hadn’t come out yet, why such an accurate retelling came into existence.
Elsa: It’s a long story to tell about what happened in my past
Emma: Don’t worry, we’ve seen the movie so we don’t have to waste time.
Elsa: What?
Emma: You’re welcome.
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Keeper of FelixFrozen presents a huge problem. We know that the Disney movies exist within the show universe eg when Neal told Mulan about a her movie. Therefore Frozen should exist as well. Because the show copied Frozen exactly, why did none of the characters mention or question why there was such an accurate retelling of Elsa’s story or if Frozen hadn’t come out yet, why such an accurate retelling came into existence.
I recall in several interviews that Adam and Eddy stated that the Frozen arc actually took place BEFORE the movie came out, because based on their so called timeline, it was still early 2013 during that arc. As for why the movie events apparently happened as told in the movie, they said that they didn’t want to re-tell the story this time around, but would rather see how the characters mixed in the OUAT universe. Granted that doesn’t explain the in-show reasoning. If Frozen is an issue for you, then I guess Brave is too? After all, when Merida shows up, we’re led to believe that the events of Brave already happened 10 years prior as depicted in the movie.
I recall in several interviews that Adam and Eddy stated that the Frozen arc actually took place BEFORE the movie came out, because based on their so called timeline, it was still early 2013 during that arc.
Yes. I recall that and Keb’s timeline is far more accurate and still reflects that.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Yes. I recall that and Keb’s timeline is far more accurate and still reflects that.
yeah, and Adam even tweeted this year that only 2 years passed in the show since pilot, they are still in 2013, which means Hnery age was a mistake, is one of many, all this timeline is confusing and the Henry`s timeline is even more confuse.
<If Frozen is an issue for you, then I guess Brave is too? After all, when Merida shows up, we’re led to believe that the events of Brave already happened 10 years prior as depicted in the movie.
I’ve never seen Brave so it’s not such an issue but it goes back to the same problem as Frozen. We know the Disney movies exist in-show because Neal told Mulan about her movie. However, it could’ve worked in that the Disney movies weren’t a 100% accurate telling of the story hence why Disney’s Snow White has the main events (the queen hating Snow, the huntsman, the apple, etc) but not the rest of the “story” eg Daniel, Snow herself being a bad ass etc. Once is supposed to be the “real” story.
When the show takes Frozen verbatim, it throws away the entire premise of the show- taking the characters we think we know and telling the “true” version of events. Whether the Frozen arc happened before or after the Frozen movie came out doesn’t matter, the point is that a 100% accurate retelling of Elsa’s story would be coming out in-show which throws up a lot of difficult questions.
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Keeper of FelixHenry claimed in 5A to be 13, so we have to take his word for it that at least 3 years have passed since he told Emma he was 10 in the pilot, and we know he was born in later 2001, on account of when his bioparents met, so it has to be at least 2014 in “present” time.
My calculations put his statement that he was 13 (to Sir Morgan) on 7/3/2013, which is obviously impossible. It’s clear that they intended more time to pass between events than they’ve actually allowed for on screen, and even stretching it was iffy to make a full six weeks for the Camelot flashbacks.
One thing they do often is sort of assume a week between episodic events where not otherwise clarified…but even when they’re mentally doing that, they’ll have someone say events of a previous episode happened “yesterday” or otherwise indicate that it’s only the next day. And that’s how they lose a LOT of time that they seem to believe happened. The default in their minds seems to be “a week passed” but the default in show time tends to be “the next day” for consecutive episodes.
It’s really fuzzy just how much time was supposed to happen in the Underworld, and I’m not very far into documenting that arc yet. However, when they get back, it appears that several weeks passed based on comments characters made at that point.
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Henry claimed in 5A to be 13, so we have to take his word for it that at least 3 years have passed since he told Emma he was 10 in the pilot, and we know he was born in later 2001, on account of when his bioparents met, so it has to be at least 2014 in “present” time.
Actually Henry age should not be account to say anything, bc how is that Henry was born in late 2001 and on spring of 2012 when 214 is supposed to happen he has 11? If he was born in in late 2001 or even August of 2001, how is possible for him to have 11 in spring 2012. And even if we are really in 2014, how is that if he was born late 2001, in early 2014 he has 13 years? Henry age is a mistake, i saw online on Tumblr and some fans said that that Adam said that henry age was a script mistake.
Also the timetable that only 2 years passed in the show was mentioned on a tweet from Adam after the Hnery 13 years thing, so yeah, Hnery example cant be use to define anything in this show. They made mistakes, bc related to henry they forgot that a pregnancy has 9 months.
Yes, they do make many mistakes. However, when I’m composing the timeline, as much as possible, I stick with what they’ve claimed on screen first. Where it contradicts, I go with what makes the most sense to me. Nevertheless, Henry’s age HAS been canonically stated to be already 13, whether the math works or not. And that makes it relevant data for analyzing the timeline of the show. If the creators have said it was an error, I haven’t seen that; without a reference I can’t discount the data entirely.
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