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I’m okay with how they handled it. They just don’t have the time to show us everything. This is a big complicated show with so many characters and story threads and sometimes things are just implied. I felt they showed us enough for us to understand. Others disagree. It’s just a matter of interpretation.
Except nothing is implied because Rumple and Emma CLEARLY don’t know that this is what Snow and Charming were planning on doing. They both act surprised, so there were no secret back room conversations.
This is an acceptable conversation to take place off screen: “honey, we’re going to the story to get milk”
This is not: “honey, we’re going to name your new baby brother after your ex-lover with whom you had a child and who had to leave you in order for you to fulfill your destiny of coming here and breaking a curse and whom you’ve told us several times now that you’ve never once stopped loving and who is recently dead, sorta through your own hands because he asked you to release him from his absorbed father’s body. We think it would be nice. You good with this?”
Emma and Rumple clearly don’t know that snow and Charming are going to do this because Snowing made a huge deal out of not telling anyone until the ceremony.
I’m sorry but you can’t fan-imagine your way through this one.[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think we both got the conversation mixed up. I wasn’t referring to them not telling everyone they were going to name the baby Neal. You’re right- they didn’t discuss that beforehand. I’m talking about them making the decision to use the name to honor him in the first place. I thought it was lovely and appropriate. You didn’t. Let’s just agree to disagree.
I think snow and charming felt bad about telling Neal let go of Emma and Henry, which inadvertently led him to free rumpled which inadvertently led to his death. If they didn’t have that conversation with him he may have stuck around until they figured out that they had to cast the curse again. Maybe they felt guilty by that and named the baby after him because of it
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I expected it….but I can’t say I think it was the best choice. Perhaps the only choice if they wanted Neal deadeadead. But yeah, it’s really weird to name your son after your grandson’s father.
I think that Rumple was moved by the gesture though…I’m hoping he sees it as becoming closer to the family, since after all Henry is his grandson too. And I do love me some Rumple-Charming broshipping.
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I get the logic behind naming the baby Neal but really? Couldn’t Neal have been a middlename or something?
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Maybe a storyline at the beginning of the next season can be that they decide to change the baby’s name for some reason.
I’m actually reading a book where this happened. In the first book, a baby was born near the end and was given a name. In the second book, the one I’m reading, i guess the author decided she liked another name better and just… Changed it. Just like that. The baby just started telling people she was changing her name. Granted as I think its going to be a part of the plot later but still. It can happen.
*cough* I’d also like to add that while I think it was a nice thing to do, I too dont think they should have named the baby Neal. I also don’t think Graham would have been a good name either. >>"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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From a character point of view? They named the child Neal. His alias. Because that’s what Emma knew him as. It’s a way to acknowledge Emma’s relationship with Neal. But the man’s true name was Baelfire. They did not choose this name because yes, if Henry chooses to name his own child after his father, shouldn’t he want to use the true name of the person, to acknowledge not just the man his mother loved, but the boy his grandfather loved, and the person ‘Neal’ truly was?
I mentioned on another thread but will say it again here.
I felt the name Neal was very *eh* and only emotional for the actors because they had such a fondness for the actor who portrayed Neal. As a character, Neal didn’t have that much specifically to do with Charming or Snow or Storybrooke directly~ but it was a timely, sentimental choice. It just would have been nice for the baby to have his own, fresh identity. Maybe he will develop his own nickname in the future.
Having nothing to do with the actual character ~”Prince Neal” just doesn’t have a very regal ring to it!
Side comment, yeah, I believe Henry just got out of the camera shot, you didn’t see his face or emotional reaction at all. Just logistically gave Emma an easier move to go to find her hero, Hook.
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Others (especially RG) have explained much of my thinking about this, so I won’t rehash those points.
Maybe they felt guilty by that and named the baby after him because of it
If that was their reasoning then it was only on a subconscious level.
What gets me about them honouring Neal as a hero is that they don’t even know the half of it, unless Rumple remembered Neal sending the note and has since told them, which is unlikely considering there hasn’t been time for that and Rumple’s been distracted. Neal splitting from Rumple so Rumple could give up Zelena’s name is such plot hole-y contradictory nonsense (Rumple had moments of coherence even when he was sharing a body with Neal, so splitting them to get the name shouldn’t have even been necessary) that it kinda grates my nerves that that’s what they all believe his big hero moment is and that’s why they named the kid after him. If they knew how Neal used all his strength to separate from Rumple and send the note to Hook, meaning they realised that they wouldn’t even have Emma back at all if not for Neal, then that might make it easier to swallow. But as far as we know, they’re not aware of that.
I also don’t think Graham would have been a good name either. >>
Graham would have been fine with me, because Graham spared Snow’s life and helped Charming escape Regina. Graham was an important player in making it possible for Snowing being together, so naming their son after him would be totally appropriate IMO.
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