Promo and sneaks

[mia]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

It’s either an old wound or a wooden leg perhaps….puppets, woods (hmmmm)

Yeah, my thought was a wooden leg. Would be kind of ironic.
On a side note, MM is so dumb. 😆 The poor woman is so innocent she can’t help it and only makes things worse. This is going to be fun to watch.

@slurpeez108 wrote:

😮 Wow, so we’ve confirmed that Regina’s mom is the miller’s daughter and is a powerful sorceress.

Can’t wait to see her deal with Rumpel (in a future episode I guess). This does shed an interesting light on Rumpel’s and Regina’s relationship. Do you think she knows?

[lissy]

Shin splints. Looks like he might actually be pinocchio after all. Mr. Gold was getting quite upset MM was ignoring him. I can imagine him saying “shut up, shut up” in his head! And for a good reason becuase this is not a great start for proving her innocence….

Yes I bet Regina does know! Or at least I’m hoping. It would explain the reason why they seem to have such a complexed history… 💡 What if Cora could not become pregnant, and made a deal with Rumpel, who gave her a potion or something in order to have Regina?

[Phee]

Thanks for that link! I can’t freakin’ wait for this ep!

Gotta love how everyone was so hung up on speculating that Regina was the miller’s daughter, yet I don’t think I heard anyone suggest she was the miller’s granddaughter. Seems so obvious now! DUH.

[mia]

There were many people who thught that Cora and not Regina was the miller’s daughter. The threads are probably buried right now. The discussionw is weeks old. 😆

[angiebelle]

Wow…so if *Cora* is the miller’s daughter rather than Regina as I originally thought, that makes Regina….the first born child that Rumpelstiltskin tries to claim in the original story! (In that version of the story, the miller’s daughter agrees to give him her firstborn in exchange for one more room full of spun gold for the king. When the child is born, Rumple says he will call off the deal if she can guess his name. Her servants overhear him chanting his name in the woods and inform her. When she reveals that she knows his name, he gets so angry that he breaks into pieces.)

I did notice in Skin Deep that Rumple and the Queen seemed to have almost an apprentice and master relationship going on, or at least one that existed in the past- like he used to be her teacher but then they had a falling out.

[Phee]

Mia, those discussions musta been from before I joined up. The other forum I’ve been reading for longer than this one, I’m sure I never saw the possibility come up. It’s no wonder he has such disdain for Regina if she’s the baby that got away.

[king arthur]

I believe there is going to be more of a twist to Cora being the miller’s daughter (as OUAT writers love to do). I am thinking that she is not the one who is requested to spin straw into gold but rather Regina.

Here is my theory:
Cora is a miller’s daughter and is married to Henry Sr. Henry is a respectable upper class nobleman but NOT a king. Cora wants desperately to have her daughter marry upwards in class (reason unknown).

The local widower king (Leopold) has announced he is seeking a new wife. Cora sees the opportunity and promotes propaganda that her daughter can spin straw into gold. (So Regina is the “Miller’s granddaughter but it’s really Cora who takes on the role of the parent lying about her child’s talents in hopes of class advancement). The writers/producers have mentioned potential gender reversals of traditional fairytale characters, here the mother has replaced the “miller” father but still related to a miller.

Leopold requests Regina to demonstrate her talent, Cora’s figuring she can help Regina fake it with her magic. Somehow, a glitch comes in because Leopold locks Regina in isolation for the task and Cora is unable to get to her to help.
Rumplestiltskin appears to Regina because his magic is still more powerful and he can poof in. So Regina and Rumple make a few deals, including the first born deal. Rumple spins straw into gold. Leopold is impressed, proposes and marries Regina. Cora meanwhile is so proud of her daughter because not only has she married a King but she too has magical power (Cora thinks).

Cora gives her daughter all her magic books in hopes that she will grow in her powers. Of course there’s still the Stable Boy true love of Regina’s. Young Snow does inadvertently reveal this forbidden love, leading Cora to “kill” the Stable Boy by changing him into an apple tree. (I do like the theory of Regina’s lost love being the cherished apple tree, a good while back I joked about this possibility but now it seems very likely.)

After that, Regina’s heart grows cold and evil and she does actually start to dabble in Black Magic, hoping to find a way to bring back her love or at least get out of her marriage.

There is still the promised firstborn to Rumple but perhaps EQ has still yet to become pregnant so we may or may not have gotten to that part of the Rumplestiltskin story yet.

Thanks for bearing with my rather long post.

[mia]

Hm, interesting plot. What bothers me a bit is:
@King Arthur wrote:

Leopold requests Regina to demonstrate her talent, Cora’s figuring she can help Regina fake it with her magic. Somehow, a glitch comes in because Leopold locks Regina in isolation for the task and Cora is unable to get to her to help.

We’ve only seen the king shortly, but he seemed to be a gentle and very nice man. Not really someone who would lock someone away for giving him what he wants. Especially not his (maybe) future wife.

[hjbau]

Maybe Regina and Rumpel work together to take out Regina’s mother. Though i wouldn’t think that this would happen in today’s episode. I think today’s episode will be mostly about Regina and Snow.

[Slurpeez]

@ Phee: The theory that Cora is the miller’s daughter (and therefore Regina is the miller’s granddaughter) was tossed around here: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=164&hilit=cora+the+miller%27s+daughter

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