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I hadn’t heard that theory about the Darling family having a connection to the Home Office. What is that based on? I only heard the theory about Dorothy on the one hand being in charge or Robin Hood and Marian being affiliated as Tamara’s parents.
It was originally postulated by Snuffy and then expanded.
Totally crack pot theory with no basis BUT I think that maybe, being that right now the oldest people with some magical world affliations, the organization running Tamara and Greg is actually run by the Darlings. There’s a connection between all these worlds obviously, and Mr. Darling himself had a connection to NL, so why not a connection between Bae and this organization. Maybe they’ve been looking for him for a long time?
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=3770&p=56422#p56422
The Dorothy theory sorta came from my brain and it’s still my favorite combined with the RH/Marain theory for Tamara
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
Given how secret they tried to make Freya’s character, I tend to think she’s still alive in NL and we’ll be seeing her frequently in S3. PLUS, if the Home Office was designed initially by the Darling family to track her down, it would make a better story for her to still be alive, especially if GOAT’s orders are to bring her home (even if the original Darling family is dead)
Isn’t Neverland supposed to make you forget about home? What if Wendy doesn’t realise so much time has past since she flew to Neverland, she doesn’t realise her family is dead.
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Keeper of Felix@RumplesGirl wrote:
I hadn’t heard that theory about the Darling family having a connection to the Home Office. What is that based on? I only heard the theory about Dorothy on the one hand being in charge or Robin Hood and Marian being affiliated as Tamara’s parents.
It was originally postulated by Snuffy and then expanded.
Totally crack pot theory with no basis BUT I think that maybe, being that right now the oldest people with some magical world affliations, the organization running Tamara and Greg is actually run by the Darlings. There’s a connection between all these worlds obviously, and Mr. Darling himself had a connection to NL, so why not a connection between Bae and this organization. Maybe they’ve been looking for him for a long time?
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=3770&p=56422#p56422
Hmmm. I’m not sure how I feel about the Darlings being connected with the Home Office. From what I know of Tamara, she’s pretty murderous. She might have a good reason to dislike magic. But Wendy’s parents were depicted as loving and they adopted all the Lost Boys. 😕
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@RumplesGirl wrote:
Isn’t Neverland supposed to make you forget about home? What if Wendy doesn’t realise so much time has past since she flew to Neverland, she doesn’t realise her family is dead.
That would be gut-wrenchingly sad! 😥
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Hmmm. I’m not sure how I feel about the Darlings being connected with the Home Office. From what I know of Tamara, she’s pretty murderous and dark. She might have a good reason to dislike magic. But Wendy’s parents were depicted as loving and they adopted all the Lost Boys
I think Tamara as an excellent reason for hating magic in that her parents RH and Marian were forced to come to our world to flee magic. But with the Darlings, the Home Office could have started out with one simple mission: “find Wendy Darling.” That mission statement over the years, after the Darlings died, could have been expanded so that the “eradicate magic” statement came to the forefront. Whoever runs the Home Office now is more concerned with eradicating magic, hence recruiting GOAT, than they are with finding Wendy Darling. But initial impetus of the Home Office were the Darlings trying to locate their daughter based on what they knew: Peter Pan and Neverland (because didn’t George Darling know of PP when he was a kid?)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
Hmmm. I’m not sure how I feel about the Darlings being connected with the Home Office. From what I know of Tamara, she’s pretty murderous and dark. She might have a good reason to dislike magic. But Wendy’s parents were depicted as loving and they adopted all the Lost Boys
I think Tamara as an excellent reason for hating magic in that her parents RH and Marian were forced to come to our world to flee magic. But with the Darlings, the Home Office could have started out with one simple mission: “find Wendy Darling.” That mission statement over the years, after the Darlings died, could have been expanded so that the “eradicate magic” statement came to the forefront. Whoever runs the Home Office now is more concerned with eradicating magic, hence recruiting GOAT, than they are with finding Wendy Darling. But initial impetus of the Home Office were the Darlings trying to locate their daughter based on what they knew: Peter Pan and Neverland (because didn’t George Darling know of PP when he was a kid?)
George Darling had a very positive connection to NL. He was there with Peter Pan as a child, and Geroge had very happy recollections of being there. While I can see him being a concerned parent, especially if Wendy and her brother didn’t return, he would have known where his kids were, in NL, so he wouldn’t need to form a search party to locate his children.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
George Darling had a very positive connection to NL. He was there with Peter Pan as a child, and Geroge had very happy recollections of being there. While I can see him being a concerned parent, especially if Wendy and her brother didn’t return, he would have known where his kids were, in NL, so he wouldn’t need to form a search party to locate his children.
Ah, but doesn’t this assume that ONCE’s NL and PP are going to be happy places? George may not be concerned if his kids were in the Disney version of PP but we know A and E…it’s probably NOT going to be all rainbows and sing-a-longs.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@slurpeez108 wrote:
George Darling had a very positive connection to NL. He was there with Peter Pan as a child, and Geroge had very happy recollections of being there. While I can see him being a concerned parent, especially if Wendy and her brother didn’t return, he would have known where his kids were, in NL, so he wouldn’t need to form a search party to locate his children.
We don’t know if George’s connection with Peter Pan will remain, just like we don’t know what kind of Peter Pan and Neverland we’ll have. Adaptations of Peter Pan usually dismiss the time the Darling children remain in Neverland as no time having passed on Earth at all, but we know from Bae’s life that won’t be true in OUAT. I’m sure even a few hours there will leave George and Mary Darling in a state of despair at their children being kidnapped, and if they see then being taken by a mysterious shadow that flys them to an unknown place the seeds are planted for “The Home Office”.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
George Darling had a very positive connection to NL. He was there with Peter Pan as a child, and Geroge had very happy recollections of being there. While I can see him being a concerned parent, especially if Wendy and her brother didn’t return, he would have known where his kids were, in NL, so he wouldn’t need to form a search party to locate his children.
Ah, but doesn’t this assume that ONCE’s NL and PP are going to be happy places? George may not be concerned if his kids were in the Disney version of PP but we know A and E…it’s probably NOT going to be all rainbows and sing-a-longs.
Hmmm, good point. But knowing his kids were in NL, how would forming the Home Office help George to bring the Darling children home again? He’d have no means to fly to NL in search of his kids. And having failed to do so (since I’m assuming George died long ago), then why would the Home Office continue to search for them? And why would the Home Office have evolved to eradicate all magic from this world? It still seems like a giant stretch to go from concerned father to murderous forensic analyst. Even if Tamara’s mission were somehow tied to George Darling’s original goal, I just don’t see how eradicating magic in this land would impact magic in NL.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
George Darling had a very positive connection to NL. He was there with Peter Pan as a child, and Geroge had very happy recollections of being there. While I can see him being a concerned parent, especially if Wendy and her brother didn’t return, he would have known where his kids were, in NL, so he wouldn’t need to form a search party to locate his children.
Ah, but doesn’t this assume that ONCE’s NL and PP are going to be happy places? George may not be concerned if his kids were in the Disney version of PP but we know A and E…it’s probably NOT going to be all rainbows and sing-a-longs.
Hmmm, good point. But knowing his kids were in NL, how would forming the Home Office help George to bring the Darling children home again? He’d have no means to fly to NL in search of his kids. And having failed to do so (since I’m assuming George died long ago), then why would the Home Office continue to search for them? And why would the Home Office have evolved to eradicate all magic from this world? It still seems like a giant stretch to go from concerned father to murderous forensic analyst.
Imagine you’re George Darling. Imagine you’re returning home and you see a shadow flying outside your children’s window. Imagine you see this shadow taking away all of your children, which you never see again because they’re having the time of their lives in Neverland. Suddenly it’s not so hard to believe he’d come to hate magic, isn’t it?
Hmmm, good point. But knowing his kids were in NL, how would forming the Home Office help George to bring the Darling children home again? He’d have no means to fly to NL in search of his kids. And having failed to do so (since I’m assuming George died long ago), then why would the Home Office continue to search for them? And why would the Home Office have evolved to eradicate all magic from this world? It still seems like a giant stretch to go from concerned father to murderous forensic analyst. Even if Tamara’s mission were somehow tied to George Darling’s original goal, I just don’t see how eradicating magic in this land would impact magic in NL.
All excellent questions for which I have no answers. 😆
I’m much more fond of the Dorothy theory that Oz was not a good place to her and in order to ensure no one went there again or that no one from OZ could come here, she formed the Home Office (maybe with the Wizard) to eradicate magic.
But back to the Darlings…while I do think flying to NL is going to be the central way to get there, it doesn’t mean it’s the only way. They’ve hinted at “Neverland-adjacent” which is frustratingly opaque and could indicate that there are other ways to reach NL besides flying. And like I said, once George died, maybe the Home Office’s mission changed to eradicating magic (let’s go nuts and combine the two: maybe Dorothy took over the Home Office because she had been recruited by them when she got back from Oz and then she, years later, recruited GOAT). When companies change hands often times the mission and outlook of that company changes depending on who is now in charge.
And I do think it’s worth mentioning that the Home Office has probably been around for a long time, as they seem to have unparalleled resources at their disposal."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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