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For the writers to suddenly say to Emilie “you’re pregnant so we’re going to write you out of the show until after you’ve had the kid but we’ll still let Ginny take part even though she’s in the exact same situation as you” is wrong.
100% agree with you there — if it isn’t her decision, then that’s plain old discrimination and if that’s what happening I am going to drop this show like the radioactive misogynist tuber it is. Grrr. >:-[
Out of curiosity, do we KNOW she’s being written out, or is this speculation based on her pregnancy announcement? There are a million ways of writing the pregnancy into the story — if there’s a will, there’s a way, especially with something as crackfic-y as OUAT, and as you yourself said, there are also perfectly reasonable in-story explanations. But of course, it could also be Emilie’s decision, and all sorts of things might be going on for her personally that have nothing to do with OUAT itself, and that make her want to take a break. If so, then the more power to her. I’m just curious if we actually know that she’s taking time off or not.
[adrotate group="5"]If Emilie is being written out due to her pregnancy, it should be noted that it’s possible Emilie herself requested the time off. Unfortunately we don’t know, but figured it needs to be mentioned as a possibility.
I thought it was kind of a cheap shot for Rumpel to essentially dare Belle to not show up for their reconciliation. I don’t know if there’s any really good way for a couple to resolve the kind of problems they have, so I’m not being absolutely critical. Rumpel’s request did sort of put the power into Belle’s hands, but it felt to me as if Rumpel was also abdicating responsibility to work really hard to fix things. I mean, even if Rumpel hadn’t made that request, Belle still could’ve walked away from the relationship if that was her choice. Rumpel didn’t have to offer permission, so the offer feels like a dare, a passive-aggressive remnant of his old way of doing things.
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My problem with the whole scene isn’t that they broke up. Like many others, it’s just that it was written and acted so horribly. The dialogue was clunky, confusing, and just plain bad.
I’m at the point where I would stand up and cheer if Rumple sees the boat of DOs and says “Bye, all. I’m taking all the gold I’ve spun and leaving this place. Have fun trying to survive without me.” And then Bobby’s final scene is him sitting on a tropical beach somewhere with a drink in a coconut with an umbrella, relaxing and enjoining life. A thousand applause if Henry goes with him.
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I think the thing that the writers needed to express, if this scene were to feel at ALL genuine, was that Belle is faced with loving a person who manipulated her, lied to her, and used her to cover up his crimes. If she had said something about how she couldn’t look at him without seeing the person who had hurt her, even though she knows things are different now, it would have felt more real to me, more in character. Asking for time, or wanting to take things slowly as they consider how/whether to rebuild their relationship, that made sense.
But I’m not the only one who felt like Belle was doing so OOC. It felt forced, uncomfortable, and just not like Belle. It was made extra painful by setting it up as her giving him hope before breaking his heart, which Belle would never intentionally do to him. The stuff about trying to heal his heart and breaking hers, while thematic, just…didn’t flow well. It didn’t fit the shape of their relationship. CS’s, maybe, which is probably what they were trying to do with this (because honestly that’s what the show has become about, no matter what they say).
Basically they had Belle saying the things that Killian and Emma need to say to each other (and probably won’t), to Rumple, in a context that didn’t make sense since there was SOME time when they could have, yanno, actually TALKED.
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SOME time when they could have, yanno, actually TALKED.
Still waiting for my Kitchen Table episode.
No but your point is valid. It was forced and clunky and weird. But I also think that the writers aren’t so concerned with their characters talking, not only like normal human beings, but like the characters we’ve known for 5 years. They are just concerned with getting their characters from point A to point B, nevermind how forced it feels.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"What would have been most satisfying to us Beauty and the Beast fans. “My father’s sick, and now that you’re okay, I have to help him. Let’s figure this out when he’s better.”
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I was a HUGE RumBelle shipper. I was certain I was going to go down with that ship, but, his consistent lying and promises to get “better” and not lie/use magic just reminded me too much of the cycle of abuse. I feel like her being strong in the past few seasons (pushing him over the town line and not getting back together with him in this episode) is awesome and as painful as it is to see these two that I loved SOOOOO much break up, I think it would be worse to see the continuation of an abusive relationship.
Now, it’s not abusive in that he hits her or steals her money or verbally assaults her or anything like that, but he is abusing her trust, kindness and heart. The cycle goes like this: Tension Builds (something doesn’t add up to Belle), Incident (She finds out he used magic, went back on his word, lied etc), Reconciliation (He promises not to do it again), Calm (All is well and they are working at the Pawn Shoppe), Tension Builds etc.
I suppose you could say this is all for story, but, just like some people were upset that Hook and Emma were going to move in together without getting married I’m upset that for a minute there I felt like OUAT was romanticizing an abusive relationship. Anyway, I hope he can change and they can get back together but in the meantime I’m so happy Belle was strong enough to walk away.
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IG: TheBroadwayBelleThe problem is that they have no idea and never have known how to write Rumbelle. I adored Rumbelle in season one, even to 3a (where the show really ended for me at 3×10). Skin Deep is still a masterpiece and I can watch it almost like an independent 44 minute movie. But the writing afterward is atrocious.
Here is a couple that had enough issues internally but then they had to go and add kidnappings, amnesia, death, separation, etc. Season one Rumple was layered and complicated but by season four he became a caricature of his former self. The writers really ruined him. Add to that the subpar treatment of Belle throughout the series (to be fair, they killed Snowing, too).
Rumbelle has become this ship that is so much better in fanfiction. In fanfiction, they can deal with feelings and thoughts, address issues like PTSD and addiction. The show will never ever do this. And ultimately the popularity of the ship is propelled by Bobby and Emilie. They do the most with what they’re given, which admittedly isn’t much.
For a show supposedly about hope and happy endings, Rumbelle has really gotten the short shrift. Every supposedly happy moment has been clouded in angst. We got a reunion then immediately a kidnapping. They had a wedding but he was lying to her. There is only so much sadness you can be lobbed at fans before they leave.
At this point, I really don’t care what happens to any of them. Which for showrunners is worse than angry fans. At least with hate-watchers, their eyes turn in to the show. Apathetic fans will just not watch at all anymore. And based on the ratings slide (yes, I know all the excuses–football, holidays, blah, blah,…) more are feeling the same way.
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Out of curiosity, do we KNOW she’s being written out, or is this speculation based on her pregnancy announcement? There are a million ways of writing the pregnancy into the story — if there’s a will, there’s a way, especially with something as crackfic-y as OUAT, and as you yourself said, there are also perfectly reasonable in-story explanations. But of course, it could also be Emilie’s decision, and all sorts of things might be going on for her personally that have nothing to do with OUAT itself, and that make her want to take a break. If so, then the more power to her. I’m just curious if we actually know that she’s taking time off or not.
We’re just assuming, really. There were pics from set of a scene where Belle’s with her father, and I think she was loading a suitcase into a car or something like that? Implying that she’s packing up to go live with her father for a while, which implies she won’t be on screen.
When Emilie’s pregnancy was announced I had to wonder how they were gonna disguise it, considering what a horrible job they did with disguising Ginny’s, and Belle has a certain style when it comes to fashion that they’d have to alter significantly. Can you imagine Belle getting around looking like Snow did in all those frumpy clothes in a poor attempt to cover up the bump? She’d look terribly OOC, so I’m almost relieved that it seems they’re not gonna attempt it.
Emilie’s still getting paid even if she’s not on screen, so while I’m sure that overall (not just in this one instance) her amount of screentime is disappointing from the point of view of her wanting to actually get to act on a regular basis, it’s not like she isn’t being compensated for her role as part of the cast. They’re not cutting her off just because her character’s not on screen for a while. Maybe Eric (her babydaddy) has work commitments in LA, and they don’t want to be spending time apart during the pregnancy? Maybe she’ll want to come home to Australia at some point during the pregnancy to see her family? I seriously doubt that the OUAT powers that be would have just said, “OK, welp, we’ll write you out for a bit,” without discussing the options of how to accomodate her and what her preference was.
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