Puzzle Solved for Greg Mendell’s name/license plate/phone

[TheGoldenKey]

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Interesting about the plate, possible. Maybe a nod to Lucas.

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138 was a definite nod to George Lucas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THX_1138

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Doubt that the fact, that Ethan Embry played in a movie an aspiring writer, gives any hint about the character he now plays in Once Upon a Time. Or do you think they cast people because their former work might offer some nice to use hidden clue for fans to discover?

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From AWB being Pino to Dr. Whale being Dr. Frankie, you’d be surprised where you’d find clues. If you”re a fan of Ethan Embry it’s because you know the movie. It’s a teen cult favourite. K&H would definitely take advantage of that and use it a clue.

Same goes for the plate saying Pennsylvania. Another nod/easter egg towards something that the K&H appreciate. If there were nods to One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, there can certainly be nods Can’t Hardly Wait & Ethan Embry, Myril.

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From genetics to conclude Greg might be the creator, writer of Henry’s book is thinking far outside the box in my opinion. But who knows.

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If he were a writer it would make perfect sense as he created these characters. Again, sometimes you’ve got to think out of the box with these guys. These clues are screaming Sci-Fi/Fantasy all over the place!

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The name Greg Mendell does of course look like a broad hint, hard not to think of Gregor Mendel. Johann Gregor Mendel is most known as the father of genetics, true, but he was in his time as well a bee-keeper, studied physics and astronomy, and he was a meteorologist, who kept log of weather patterns for years and analyzed a tornado that hit Brno in 1870. Not that this has to mean anything. Just that if the name has to do anything with Gregor Mendel I think it is more something about science.

The Star Wars references were for sure eye-catching (or more or ear-catching). Could be just a nod, or more. But what a coincidence, that the director of the episode, Milan Cheylov, did as actor voice work for the animated TV series Star Wars: The Droids.

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As I’ve said at the end of my post, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that Greg was Peter Pan. Nor would I be to find out that he was WofOZ. The name Greg Mendell and the Star Wars clues can lead us in either direction. However, I’m not talking about Greg Mendel’s fairy tale character (if he does indeed have one) I’m talking about his outside profession, what he does for a living and all the clues that point toward it.

[TheGoldenKey]

ItachiIshtar, that was a great clue! Certainly lends credence to the WofOz theory. As for Mendel being an astrologist or meteorologist, that could go either way when considering Peter Pan or WofOz. I’m still mulling over those two theories.

However, this thread isn’t about Greg Mendell’s fairy tale counterpart, if indeed he even has one. This theory is about Greg Mendell, the Outsider, and what he does for a living and what connection, as a OUTSIDER, he may have towards Storybrooke.

I’m open minded to consider all theories at this stage of the game because there is still so much information and clues to come. Having said that, what if he is just an outsider? Is it that far fetched to consider that he could be the writer of the book? The clues I’ve listed would certainly support this. K&H did say, last year, that we’d meet the author of the book this season.

Any thoughts?

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[Nobody]

I like to think he is truly an outsider…I think it would be an interesting twist. Not everyone has to have a storybook counterpart. I, too, thought he was a writer of some sort but I only got as far as thinking food critic. I never even considered he could be the author of the book…how cool would it be to see your characters in the flesh? I definitely think all the George Lucas/ Star Wars clues are going to be important. As always, I love how detailed you are in your research. Looking forward to seeing how this all plays out!

[Myril]

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

From AWB being Pino to Dr. Whale being Dr. Frankie, you’d be surprised where you’d find clues. If you”re a fan of Ethan Embry it’s because you know the movie. It’s a teen cult favourite. K&H would definitely take advantage of that and use it a clue.

Same goes for the plate saying Pennsylvania. Another nod/easter egg towards something that the K&H appreciate. If there were nods to One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, there can certainly be nods Can’t Hardly Wait & Ethan Embry, Myril.

AWB and Dr. Whale are names they choose for characters, giving clues. Casting an actor because one of his former roles can be used as a clue to give away something about a character is something different. At least I prefer to think, that they cast actors and actresses for their skills, maybe looks, but not because their work could be used as clue for something about the character they are cast to play, at least not if it’s for a recurring role. A clue is something that doesn’t merely coincides but something done, put there on purpose. If anything it might be a nice coincidence that Embry played a writer before, and in such a cult movie.

Yes there were nods to movies before, like to One Flew Over the Cuckoos’s Nest, as there are Lost eastereggs, but that are nods, allusions, pop cultur references, not clues for the story told or the characters. It doesn’t give something away, it’s fun, honoring the work of others, and geekdom. Sometimes it can be both, but a reference doesn’t always has a meaning for the story.

As I’ve said at the end of my post, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that Greg was Peter Pan. Nor would I be to find out that he was WofOZ. The name Greg Mendell and the Star Wars clues can lead us in either direction. However, I’m not talking about Greg Mendel’s fairy tale character (if he does indeed have one) I’m talking about his outside profession, what he does for a living and all the clues that point toward it.

I am still nurturing the idea, that Greg has no fairy tale nor any other story book identity but is someone from our world. And I like the idea of him being a writer (liking in the sense could be interesting for story telling). Just saying the clues or references named here so far are not cogent, they don’t convince me, that it’s likely, that Greg in our world is a writer.

The name could very well be a hint though who he could be as fairy tale or story book character if he is any. Like Dr. Whale was a hint at Frankenstein. Could be even a hint, that he has story book history. Not so easy to discuss one without the other.

Now if Greg is a guy from our world and an outsider, but the author of Henry’s book, how would you explain, that he knows so much about the Enchanted Forest? The stories in Henry’s book deviate from cannon fairy tales a lot. Maybe nothing to discuss in this thread, because it’s not about clues. Just something to keep in mind.

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[Nobody]

So, I was thinking about Greg being the author of the book and it reminded me of The Neverending Story. A book where the characters are real and living the plot and a little boy reading it becomes part of the plot. In our case, the author becomes a part of it….a character in his own story…I like it.

[TheGoldenKey]

@Kellyn1604 wrote:

I like to think he is truly an outsider…I think it would be an interesting twist. Not everyone has to have a storybook counterpart. I, too, thought he was a writer of some sort but I only got as far as thinking food critic. I never even considered he could be the author of the book…how cool would it be to see your characters in the flesh? I definitely think all the George Lucas/ Star Wars clues are going to be important. As always, I love how detailed you are in your research. Looking forward to seeing how this all plays out!

Thanks Kellyn 🙂 Yes, the food critic/tourism writer thing really stood out for me as well. I kept thinking about the movie The Accidental Tourist when seeing all those pics pop up on his phone. 🙂 Agreed about all the George Lucas and Star Wars clues. An acquaintance of mine mentioned that THX1138 was actually Lucas’ phone number back in his college days. I so enjoy where the writers take us off screen with all of this. I never would have connected the 138 or HER to his first movie. Saw it the other night and it was a real kick! Robert Duvall seemed somewhat uneasy in this role, granted, he was still fairly young.

Addendum: I just hit submit when I saw your post had just been newly added.

Kellyn, I really love that idea! Just like Bastian, Greg walks into Storybrooke and becomes part of his own story. Great thinking! Thanks so much for sharing that! 😀

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[TheGoldenKey]

Myril, I never said they hired Ethan Embry based on his former role so please stop using that as a counter point here. What I said is that the writers wouldn’t hesitate to use something from one of his former movies as a clue IF it fit into the story line. In this case, Ethan’s previous role as a writer, training with a famous Sci-Fi/Fantasy writer, would qualify and they ABSOLUTELY would use it.

I’ve been told before that a theory of mine was not cogent. Matter of fact, was told it dozens of times in regards to a Frankenstein theory a few of us came up with. Dr. Whale and James Whale (director of 1931’s Frankenstein) weren’t the only clues. There were clues to many other movies, such as Bride of Frankenstein, Young Frankenstein, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Frankenweenie, etc., There were over 40 clues in total. So, I am going to have to disagree with you because my experiences with theories (Pino/Dr.Whale) have proven me right about what can be considered as a clue. Please don’t misunderstand what I am saying here. I’m not saying that this theory is right. What I am saying is that I don’t need clarification of what can or can’t be considered a clue.

How would Greg know so much about the Enchanted Forest because it deviates so much from cannon, you ask? Why wouldn’t he? After all, he is the writer. As the writer, he would have created his vision of the Enchanted Forest and his vision of the characters. Just as K&H did when writing this series. They are simply living it out.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[Nobody]

Bastian was played by Barret Oliver….wasn’t Greg’s casting call for Barrett? Hmmmm…. 😀

[TheGoldenKey]

@Kellyn1604 wrote:

Bastian was played by Barret Oliver….wasn’t Greg’s casting call for Barrett? Hmmmm…. 😀

Yes it was. That’s why I originally posted a theory about Ethan being Peter Pan. Wilson Barrett wrote a play called The Never Never Land back in 1902. It’s said, that’s where J.M. Barrie got the name of Neverland from. Brent Barrettt is touring, along with Cathy Rigby, in the current production of Peter Pan. He is playing hook.

Now we’ve got an Barret Oliver that played Bastian. How interesting is that?

Of course it could also be a shout out to one of OUAT’s diretors, David Barrett.

Nice to know we have until next season to figure all of this out. At least I hope we do. 😀

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[Phee]

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

However, this thread isn’t about Greg Mendell’s fairy tale counterpart, if indeed he even has one. This theory is about Greg Mendell, the Outsider, and what he does for a living and what connection, as a OUTSIDER, he may have towards Storybrooke.

For me, the two things are connected, but that’s because I think he’s WofOz. Someone originally from our world, who went to Oz, then came back, and I think that whatever he’s been doing in our world, has been a personal search for SB, which he has an interest in as someone who has past experience with magical, storybook characters.

I think his arrival in town will show a converging of the scientific and the magical, a theme which they’ve already laid the groundwork for with the Frankenstein stuff. Viktor doesn’t have any true allies in town when it comes to science vs magic, and he’s started to lose hope. But if WofOz, someone who is more scientist than the magician he was once believed to be, was able to use his research in our non-magical world to locate SB, then that’s a little victory for science over magic, which could have an impact on Viktor’s beliefs and how the character progresses.

Greg’s place in the town could ultimately relate to the search for a way back to FTL, (another theme they’ve laid the groundwork for), if he has experience in finding ways to magical lands from our world. He did it when he went to Oz, he did it when he found SB, so it stands to reason that he should be able to find a way to FTL too. So like I said, for me, his potential storybook character past and his position in the real world and his connection to SB, are all intertwined, so I can’t really discuss one without considering the other as well.

I’m open minded to consider all theories at this stage of the game because there is still so much information and clues to come. Having said that, what if he is just an outsider? Is it that far fetched to consider that he could be the writer of the book? The clues I’ve listed would certainly support this. K&H did say, last year, that we’d meet the author of the book this season.

I don’t personally make the connection to him being a writer, given what we’ve seen of him thus far. For me, the food critic theory is a bit of a leap, and I think they just showed him tweeting food pics because it’s a mundane thing that many mundane people do, and they’re trying to fool us into believing he’s just a regular guy.

I’ve thought for ages that Blue Fairy wrote the book, as she was in a position to know everyone’s stories. And I think she planted it with MM in SB with the intent that it’d end up in Henry’s hands, which would get him clued into the curse business, which would drive him to find Emma. So when K&H say we’ll meet the writer of the book, I figure that means it’ll be a reveal that Blue wrote it, and Greg wouldn’t have a place in that storyline if I stick with that line of thinking I’ve had for ages.

If Greg did write the book, then how did it end up in SB? The tone of his phonecall didn’t sound to me like someone who was revisiting a place he’d been before. And if he’d sent the book there instead of delivering it, then he’d have already known where the town was, and wouldn’t be all excited to have stumbled on now.

@Kellyn1604 wrote:

So, I was thinking about Greg being the author of the book and it reminded me of The Neverending Story. A book where the characters are real and living the plot and a little boy reading it becomes part of the plot. In our case, the author becomes a part of it….a character in his own story…I like it.

I do love me some Neverending Story, but could Greg’s age be a glitch in that theory? Ethan’s 34, the curse happened about 29 years ago, (if we include the time that’s passed since Emma got to town), which means if Greg is a real world person, (similar to Bastian), he was only about 5 when SB arrived, and by that point, all of FTL history had played out, without any interaction from him reading it. Events in SB aren’t in the book, so he can’t have read about that part of the story to end up being a part of it that way.

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