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Queen of Hearts

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  • October 8, 2012 at 12:46 am #134999
    Slurpeez
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    More than ever, I think Cora is the QoH. She had a heart-shaped pendant on her necklace and a heart on her book of spells. Finally, she went through the looking glass, which we know is the portal to Wonderland. Finally, we know she’s alive in the present-day FTL remnant that survives, which makes me think the different worlds collided as a result of the curse.

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    October 8, 2012 at 1:00 am #155890
    adamchapman
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    I dunno, I was hoping that everything was leading towards her being the Queen of Hearts, but her appearance in the present day FTL really threw me off. I hope that the different worlds collided after the curse, I prefer the worlds being separate and slightly cut-off from one another.

    Also liked the idea that Charming had no idea about Wonderland, and was only familiar with the concept because of his time spent as David Nolan.

    October 8, 2012 at 1:03 am #155892
    marilou
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    how did she go from Wonderland to the parcel of EF that was protected from the curse?

    October 8, 2012 at 1:05 am #155893
    adamchapman
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    @Marilou wrote:

    how did she go from Wonderland to the parcel of EF that was protected from the curse?

    That’s the big question- and part of why I think she can’t actually be the Queen of Hearts, and instead we were misled. The writers knew that fans suspected that Cora was the Queen of Hearts, so played upon that suspicion quite well, until it was revealed that Cora is actually in FTL.

    October 8, 2012 at 1:17 am #155899
    Slurpeez
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    The curse may have caused the different lands to meld together though. That’s why we saw Mulan, for example, along with Prince Phillip and Aurora. They’re from different lands. Wonderland could have become destroyed, and the only remanent is a combo of all the different lands fused together. The reason Cora is a prisoner in this remanent is because she is the QoH and a threat.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    October 8, 2012 at 1:21 am #155901
    youfoundme
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    I never thought about her being the QOH! That would be a very interesting turn of events…

    October 8, 2012 at 1:25 am #155903
    adamchapman
    Participant

    @slurpeez108 wrote:

    The curse may have caused the different lands to meld together though. That’s why we saw Mulan, for example, along with Prince Phillip and Aurora. They’re from different lands. Wonderland could have become destroyed, and the only remanent is a combo of all the different lands fused together. The reason Cora is a prisoner in this remanent is because she is the QoH and a threat.

    But how would Mulan and Prince Phillip even know that Cora was a threat at all? Cora presumably wasn’t all that well-known way back when, and if Charming didn’t know of Wonderland, how would Mulan and Phillip?

    Or she could have done something else after the possible land-melding to be thrown into the pit.

    October 8, 2012 at 1:27 am #155904
    hannah97
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    Yeah, I think it’s very possible that Cora is the Queen of Hearts. My guess would be that she went through the mirror in to Wonderland, went about gaining power to become the Queen, and then when the curse struck the world’s merged and she ended up in current fairy tale land. I only have one issue here, and that’s the time difference. Regina’s wedding was many, many years ago. So how come Cora looks the same age as she did then? I suppose it’s possible that she went directly from the mirror to present-day. Or maybe you don’t age in Wonderland?

    October 8, 2012 at 1:30 am #155905
    adamchapman
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    @Hannah97 wrote:

    Yeah, I think it’s very possible that Cora is the Queen of Hearts. My guess would be that she went through the mirror in to Wonderland, went about gaining power to become the Queen, and then when the curse struck the world’s merged and she ended up in current fairy tale land. I only have one issue here, and that’s the time difference. Regina’s wedding was many, many years ago. So how come Cora looks the same age as she did then? I suppose it’s possible that she went directly from the mirror to present-day. Or maybe you don’t age in Wonderland?

    It’s very possible she didn’t age in Wonderland, or that she conjured enough magics to retard her aging and keep her at the same age visually.

    October 8, 2012 at 1:46 am #155915
    lilred
    Participant

    It does seem pretty clear now that Cora is the Queen of Hearts. I actually laughed out loud when she gave her little speech about ‘having the people’s hearts in your hands’ in front of the looking glass. 😀

    It seems weird that of the sightings of Cora on set for later episodes, she's always in blue/black/green – not red. I'm sure I'm just getting hang-up on details here, but it seems like current Cora would want to broadcast for all to know that she is a queen in her own right – THE Queen of Hearts.

    But, it is probably a post-Alice Wonderland now. It even looks like Cora is going to be in the refugees' pit next week to confront Snow and Emma. Wonder if Alice put her there? 😀

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