Random thoughts on Regina’s past

[theevilone]

I know I may be losing it but since the idea that Regina might be Rumplestiltskin’s daughter came into my mind I have been rewatching some episodes. Now that I am watching them it appears to me, mind you keeping the idea of the father daughter relationship, that yes he had a purpose of creating the curse and then breaking it in order to go look for Bae but also it feels to me that he might have been indeed been trying to make Regina stronger by teaching her magic just like he became stronger by becoming The Dark One; and I don’t know if it is in my imagination but I also seem to see just a tiny bit of affection. Don’t get me wrong, he is mean to her but I notice it mostly happens when she doesn’t listen to him and goes against what he is trying to do.

Then I started wondering about the episode The Doctor how Rumple created his monster, but doesn’t anyone think Regina went from one extreme to the other rather quickly. Maybe the creators skipped something that they just don’t want to reveal just yet. Something that would completely turn her evil enough to want to kill King Leopold and ruin Snow White’s happiness. I mean the death of Daniel was heartbreaking for her but she still appeared semi normal after the failed attempt of bringing him back to life, besides after his death she was angry but wanted more to get away from her mother than to cause harm to Snow and he had already died. Plus, after he was brought back to life in present day SB and died again Regina was heartbroken but did not completely freak out. Then I started to wonder after going so evil, as we saw in Cricket Game, what would make Regina decide to adopt a child once the curse had been inacted. I know it might be a dumb idea but could Regina have had child of her own and lost it. What if she adopted Henry because of some unfufilled feeling she had… and then I thought of Jefferson.

In watching Hat Trick I kept wondering why Regina gave Jefferson a different type of curse, you know being in SB and remembering. Why she gave Jefferson a big mansion and why did she say the things she said to him when she left him in Wonderland and why did she look so hurt and angry at the same time when she did it? Could it be related to that missing part I was talking about. My theory is that it is related and could also be related to the loss of Grace’s mother. Jefferson said he lost Grace’s mother not his wife. There is a lot that they have to cover or explain but for some reason I am really excited. I would love to hear others theories of what is going on there, because I have some real wild ones of my own.

One more thing does anyone find it weird that Jefferson knew that Rumple also remembered who he used to be. I mean he did free Belle and told her to tell Rumple that Regina had her locked up before the curse had even been broken. Jefferson told Emma that he was the only one cursed to remember. How would he know that Rumple would recognize her. Regina didn’t even know that Rumple had remembered until she forced him to say his name in Skin Deep. Could Rumple been in contact with Jefferson in present day SB, if so then why???

Even if Rumple doesn’t turn out to be her actual biological father, he did hold her as a baby, she probably was the baby promised to him. Maybe he holds some type of feelings for Regina. Did anyone see his face when Emma identtified Regina as Archie’s murderer he look kind of dissapointed. What does everyone think?

[mich7]

Very interesting…I wouldn’t be surprised at all if there is more to the story with Jefferson and Regina.

As for Rumple…since he was going to get Regina to enact the curse I don’t think it would have been to his advantage to show affection for her….if he did happen to be her father and she found out and they had a good relationship he could have become the thing she loved most. Would not have helped him to find Bae if he had to be sacrificed for the curse.

And you’re right on the Jefferson/Belle thing…I never even thought about him knowing Gold had his memory back…very odd.

[scarletlady]

TheEvilOne wrote:

Then I started to wonder after going so evil, as we saw in Cricket Game, what would make Regina decide to adopt a child once the curse had been inacted. I know it might be a dumb idea but could Regina have had child of her own and lost it. What if she adopted Henry because of some unfufilled feeling she had… and then I thought of Jefferson.

In watching Hat Trick I kept wondering why Regina gave Jefferson a different type of curse, you know being in SB and remembering. Why she gave Jefferson a big mansion and why did she say the things she said to him when she left him in Wonderland and why did she look so hurt and angry at the same time when she did it? Could it be related to that missing part I was talking about. My theory is that it is related and could also be related to the loss of Grace’s mother. Jefferson said he lost Grace’s mother not his wife. There is a lot that they have to cover or explain but for some reason I am really excited. I would love to hear others theories of what is going on there, because I have some real wild ones of my own.

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If Regina was Grace’s mother then why wouldn’t she have Grace with her in SB?

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[theevilone]

@ScarletLady wrote:

@TheEvilOne wrote:

Then I started to wonder after going so evil, as we saw in Cricket Game, what would make Regina decide to adopt a child once the curse had been inacted. I know it might be a dumb idea but could Regina have had child of her own and lost it. What if she adopted Henry because of some unfufilled feeling she had… and then I thought of Jefferson.

In watching Hat Trick I kept wondering why Regina gave Jefferson a different type of curse, you know being in SB and remembering. Why she gave Jefferson a big mansion and why did she say the things she said to him when she left him in Wonderland and why did she look so hurt and angry at the same time when she did it? Could it be related to that missing part I was talking about. My theory is that it is related and could also be related to the loss of Grace’s mother. Jefferson said he lost Grace’s mother not his wife. There is a lot that they have to cover or explain but for some reason I am really excited. I would love to hear others theories of what is going on there, because I have some real wild ones of my own.

If Regina was Grace’s mother then why wouldn’t she have Grace with her in SB?

Well we do know there are potions to make you forget, there are many possibilities in FTL especially when magic is involved. Magic can do many things, example Snow forgetting Charming, she could have gone completely evil if Charming hadn’t stopped her. Maybe something similar but in a completely different situation. In any case my point being is that if anything Jefferson story is most likely tide with Regina, she might not be the mother but she might have known the mother. I just want to see it. I do hope they go back to it.

[theevilone]

@ScarletLady wrote:

@TheEvilOne wrote:

Then I started to wonder after going so evil, as we saw in Cricket Game, what would make Regina decide to adopt a child once the curse had been inacted. I know it might be a dumb idea but could Regina have had child of her own and lost it. What if she adopted Henry because of some unfufilled feeling she had… and then I thought of Jefferson.

In watching Hat Trick I kept wondering why Regina gave Jefferson a different type of curse, you know being in SB and remembering. Why she gave Jefferson a big mansion and why did she say the things she said to him when she left him in Wonderland and why did she look so hurt and angry at the same time when she did it? Could it be related to that missing part I was talking about. My theory is that it is related and could also be related to the loss of Grace’s mother. Jefferson said he lost Grace’s mother not his wife. There is a lot that they have to cover or explain but for some reason I am really excited. I would love to hear others theories of what is going on there, because I have some real wild ones of my own.

If Regina was Grace’s mother then why wouldn’t she have Grace with her in SB?

Well we do know there are potions to make you forget, there are many possibilities in FTL especially when magic is involved. Magic can do many things, example Snow forgetting Charming, she could have gone completely evil if Charming hadn’t stopped her. Maybe something similar but in a completely different situation. In any case my point being is that if anything Jefferson story is most likely tide with Regina, she might not be the mother but she might have known the mother. I just want to see it. I do hope they go back to it.

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