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April 17, 2018 at 10:26 pm #346770Vader12Participant
There is no chance, in my opinion. To suggest otherwise is to do all those things you just accused me of doing. This show is over and while i used to love it, i am glad it is done. I am not worried about it. Of course, the producers of this show want to bring it back in the future. They want to make money and they want to be in charge. They want another chance to show run again. I don’t think they should ever be given a chance to do that ever again. This should be their last show ever.
Like I pointed out, what you just said in the other comment was not a fact, but only based on your negative opinions and personal feeling, by making sound like false hope. You saying in your opinion “There’s no chance” means nothing. And there no reason the rest of us should have to suffer for it. And the last parts of your comment now made it sound like hatred (even though that might not be the case). Just leave your negativity out of this. You were not helping. And what you said about that “they shouldn’t be they should ever be given a chance to do that ever again”, doesn’t mean someone else could take over the job. After all, A&E said in an interview they are not sure they can do it.
I don’t care what you think or wish in your negativity. Believe all you want, but you cannot escape the possibilities and unknown.
And if the show does get a revival (which most likely might not be run by the original showrunners), and most likely run in streaming service, there is nothing you can do about it.
If that’s all I have to point out, then this discussion is closed.
[adrotate group="5"]April 17, 2018 at 10:42 pm #346771RumplesGirlKeymasterAnything can be revived. You never know when someone will feel a particular need to revisit something that was once on air. However, here are some rubs:
–Shows that get revived are beloved. They aren’t revived just because of “writing mistakes.” Will and Grace and Rosanne did not get revived to fix what fans see as a writing mistake in the final episode/season. Will and Grace and Rosanne got revived because they are beloved sitcoms that were groundbreaking in the time of their inception (one for portrayals of the LGBT community and one for portrayals of low income families)
–Shows do not get revived in order to fix large swaths of previously written material which may or may not be “wrong.” Fans decide what writing mistakes are; not networks or even the writers. At the time, the writers chose to do a massive flashforward for W/G and to have Dan die in Rosanne. These were fixed only AFTER the fact–only after fans and critics talked about how bad they are.
–The writing mistakes of OUAT are only seen as mistakes by their fans; so far, the writers and critics have little to say about these so called mistakes.
–When Will and Grace and Rosanne ended, they were still ratings juggernauts. Especially compared to today’s network ratings. When W/G ended, it got almost 19 million eyeballs after an entire season of 7-9 million viewers. OUAT hasn’t had that sort of viewership in years. Rosanne is the same.
The idea that OUAT most likely will get revived is..bizarre, as of right now. There’s absolutely no call for it. ABC had it for seven years; they are ready to end it and move on to other things. They have no desire to revive a show that is currently getting a .4 in the demo. It’s not a ratings smash hit and it won’t be so close to it’s ending, were they to revive. If ABC is gonna revive anything, it would be LOST which is still mostly critically acclaimed, still holds a special place in the ABC history, and is still a groundbreaking TV show.
In short:
–OUAT is not beloved enough as it stands, right now, to get revived, at least not for years and years.
–If OUAT were to get revived it wouldn’t be to fix what some perceive as writing mistakes but because there was a genuine need for OUAT’s stories again.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 18, 2018 at 10:00 am #346773hjbauParticipantThere is no the rest of us, Nick. There is just you who thinks this show could be revived. This show is not good enough. The writers are not good enough. This show is not ground breaking. This show has no cult following. This show is no Buffy. It is no Lost. It is no Roseanne. It is no Will and Grace. There is no hatred from me. There is no emotion here. I just think bad show runners should not be given shows to run. The show runners were given two other shows to run and they were both quickly cancelled. I know that it is easy to try and make comments about me, but that has nothing to do with the fact that this show does not have it which will get it revived.
I get that your premise is that we cannot know the future, but unlike in Ouat, we actually know things about the people involved in the decision and they will do things based on what we know. The actors on this show don’t want to be on it anymore. ABC has decided that Ouat is no longer financially viable. It is cancelled. Thinking it is going to get picked up elsewhere is wishful thinking. It is getting people’s hopes up where there is no hope. If your point of view is simply that we cannot see into the future, then you have made that point.
April 18, 2018 at 1:04 pm #346774hjbauParticipantAnything can be revived. You never know when someone will feel a particular need to revisit something that was once on air. However, here are some rubs: –Shows that get revived are beloved. They aren’t revived just because of “writing mistakes.” Will and Grace and Rosanne did not get revived to fix what fans see as a writing mistake in the final episode/season. Will and Grace and Rosanne got revived because they are beloved sitcoms that were groundbreaking in the time of their inception (one for portrayals of the LGBT community and one for portrayals of low income families) –Shows do not get revived in order to fix large swaths of previously written material which may or may not be “wrong.” Fans decide what writing mistakes are; not networks or even the writers. At the time, the writers chose to do a massive flashforward for W/G and to have Dan die in Rosanne. These were fixed only AFTER the fact–only after fans and critics talked about how bad they are. –The writing mistakes of OUAT are only seen as mistakes by their fans; so far, the writers and critics have little to say about these so called mistakes. –When Will and Grace and Rosanne ended, they were still ratings juggernauts. Especially compared to today’s network ratings. When W/G ended, it got almost 19 million eyeballs after an entire season of 7-9 million viewers. OUAT hasn’t had that sort of viewership in years. Rosanne is the same. The idea that OUAT most likely will get revived is..bizarre, as of right now. There’s absolutely no call for it. ABC had it for seven years; they are ready to end it and move on to other things. They have no desire to revive a show that is currently getting a .4 in the demo. It’s not a ratings smash hit and it won’t be so close to it’s ending, were they to revive. If ABC is gonna revive anything, it would be LOST which is still mostly critically acclaimed, still holds a special place in the ABC history, and is still a groundbreaking TV show. In short: –OUAT is not beloved enough as it stands, right now, to get revived, at least not for years and years. –If OUAT were to get revived it wouldn’t be to fix what some perceive as writing mistakes but because there was a genuine need for OUAT’s stories again.
I agree with all your points, Rumpelsgirl. While i think there is no chance of a revival with the same actors, i think there is no chance that the actors who left will ever be on this show again, or the same producers or even with different producers. I would be a big fan of a reboot with different actors, different producers, but the same premise. The whole fairytale characters in the real world, who are real people, with a family focus, and twisting the stories all together, while still making them real people, is still a awesome idea and i would love it if someone would do it again.
Though, there have been lots of shows that have been versions of that over the years.
April 19, 2018 at 1:33 am #346775Vader12ParticipantThere is no the rest of us, Nick. There is just you who thinks this show could be revived. This show is not good enough. The writers are not good enough. This show is not ground breaking. This show has no cult following. This show is no Buffy. It is no Lost. It is no Roseanne. It is no Will and Grace. There is no hatred from me. There is no emotion here. I just think bad show runners should not be given shows to run. The show runners were given two other shows to run and they were both quickly cancelled. I know that it is easy to try and make comments about me, but that has nothing to do with the fact that this show does not have it which will get it revived. I get that your premise is that we cannot know the future, but unlike in Ouat, we actually know things about the people involved in the decision and they will do things based on what we know. The actors on this show don’t want to be on it anymore. ABC has decided that Ouat is no longer financially viable. It is cancelled. Thinking it is going to get picked up elsewhere is wishful thinking. It is getting people’s hopes up where there is no hope. If your point of view is simply that we cannot see into the future, then you have made that point.
What you just said me being the only one was wrong and another lie. There is so us. There are so others who believe there are possibilities, I looked at other websites. Look at the other sites where others believe and see for yourself and see how wrong you were in saying I am the only one. Everything you said there meant nothing but trolling.
I don’t care if you are not showing hatred, you’re still being a downer.
I never said I foreseen things. You on the other hand cannot foresee anything at all yourself, when saying will never happen. Telling something like that is a lie and false when you don’t know a thing about what might forecome. You never know what might happen. Always in motion the future is. And for your information, I already did make my points.
And what you said about many actors not wanting to return the show, was wrong. In case you didn’t bother reading anything, the actor of Kristoff said earlier before cancelation that he would be happy to return to the show. So what you said about actors not wanting to return was wrong.
Only ABC has decided cancelation but not the really big boss who outranks the network.
It was not wishful thinking about it getting picked up elsewhere, it is a possibility. It’s only wishful in your head and imagination.
This is not getting you anywhere.
April 19, 2018 at 1:53 am #346776Vader12ParticipantAnything can be revived. You never know when someone will feel a particular need to revisit something that was once on air. However, here are some rubs: –Shows that get revived are beloved. They aren’t revived just because of “writing mistakes.” Will and Grace and Rosanne did not get revived to fix what fans see as a writing mistake in the final episode/season.
And yet they undid Dan’s death. That was fixing a mistake. They even returned to Will and Grace’s Original format.
Will and Grace and Rosanne got revived because they are beloved sitcoms that were groundbreaking in the time of their inception (one for portrayals of the LGBT community and one for portrayals of low income families) –Shows do not get revived in order to fix large swaths of previously written material which may or may not be “wrong.” Fans decide what writing mistakes are; not networks or even the writers. At the time, the writers chose to do a massive flashforward for W/G and to have Dan die in Rosanne. These were fixed only AFTER the fact–only after fans and critics talked about how bad they are. –The writing mistakes of OUAT are only seen as mistakes by their fans; so far, the writers and critics have little to say about these so called mistakes. –When Will and Grace and Rosanne ended, they were still ratings juggernauts. Especially compared to today’s network ratings. When W/G ended, it got almost 19 million eyeballs after an entire season of 7-9 million viewers. OUAT hasn’t had that sort of viewership in years. Rosanne is the same. The idea that OUAT most likely will get revived is..bizarre, as of right now. There’s absolutely no call for it. ABC had it for seven years; they are ready to end it and move on to other things. They have no desire to revive a show that is currently getting a .4 in the demo. It’s not a ratings smash hit and it won’t be so close to it’s ending, were they to revive.
What you told was meaningless. They did fix some errors from those two aside from viewers wanting to watch the shows. They undid Dan’s death, undid the plots of Will and Grace’s marriages and having kids, and had the show’s return to their original formats. Those were pretty much fixing up and Undoing some mistakes. Made my points. And what you told about people like the old showrunners having no desire to do any possible revival was untrue. They said they are happy to leave things open for possibilities. And they already made a hints they are saving their canceled s8 for a reunion. You missed a spot. And networks can so see the mistakes when they would bring up how they are losing viewers like saying “they are not happy with happy” and there is always fixing up if they want to bring back viewers.
If ABC is gonna revive anything, it would be LOST which is still mostly critically acclaimed, still holds a special place in the ABC history, and is still a groundbreaking TV show. In short: –OUAT is not beloved enough as it stands, right now, to get revived, at least not for years and years. –If OUAT were to get revived it wouldn’t be to fix what some perceive as writing mistakes but because there was a genuine need for OUAT’s stories again.
Who said anything about ABC reviving it? I never said anything about the network doing it. In case you read carefully enough, I hinted that it is possible that another network like Disney’s streaming service can. And in case you forgot or didn’t read any news, Disney’s streaming service gave the muppets a reboot/revival after the previous show got canceled two years ago, and it is not ABC who rebooted it. And despite no some circomstances and it not fully announced, Igor hinted that they would be happy to revive Disney’s home Improvement on streaming service (not ABC). Made my points.
April 19, 2018 at 8:09 am #346777RumplesGirlKeymasterGoodness, the amount of hostility in some of these responses. Take a chill pill.
The show is over. Whether or not the show is over forever absolutely no one knows because at the end of the day, you’re fans sitting on a unofficial site theorizing, not boardroom network executives.
We have five episodes to go; let’s just watch those and enjoy whatever we can of the last of this series.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 19, 2018 at 9:18 am #346779Jiminy’s JournalParticipantOf course, there is always the chance of a comic book continuation. Smallville did it. Orphan Black‘s doing it. Both Avatar series have done it. Agent Carter should do it.
Not to mention, the Henry and Violet novel is coming out next month:
Henry and Violet finally have a chance to be alone. Granted, it’s on a school field trip, but with some clever planning and strategic maneuvering, they can orchestrate their own adventure in New York City, a fairytale land in its own right.
While they search for a treasured item that once belonged to Violet’s father, they are met with obstacles they could never have predicted. What they thought would be a romantic getaway ends up being a true test of their relationship. The question remains: Are they destined for a happily ever after?
April 27, 2018 at 8:21 pm #346906nealfanforeverParticipantSnow White is running a Truman Show.
I think Snow White is the showrunner, writer, producer, director and she has been using dreams or hearts or something to repeatedly place the people into a story that is not of their choosing…a story in which she is the hero.
I think as time moved on Snow became more sophisticated in her real life plaything stories. Instead of candles that do not flicker…she learned how to flicker them. As time moved on she incorporated real world (Harry Potter etc.)into her stories.
I think Snow, Margaret, Mary or whatever her name is knew about Disney long before she constructed a nursery. Maybe she stumbled upon Disney’s Snow White and decided she preferred that Snow White over her true self. She used people as playthings to tell the story.I don’t know if as he does it with hearts, in the dream realm…but somehow she is the showrunner, director, producer and she is playing with her friends as if they were the toys that Andy and Sid played with in Toy Story. This would explain how we see a nameless character in The Rabbit Hole and then that character is placed as Alice in Wonderland. Snow chooses that woman to become Alice. Snow might have even put Emma through the wardrobe and shipped her to Maine for dramatic effect in Snow’s story…and maybe Snow’s child is her undoing. The Evil Queen? At first we thought Rumple was the puppet master and then we thought Cora was the puppet master… but sometimes evil can be looking you right in the face and you do not know it. Snow White. Snow White created and controlled the Evil Queen so she could be a hero.
I have another post that exposes the darkness and monster in Snow. Somewhere on this site I have a post about how quickly people lose those close to them when Snow is around.
So….Pilot episode…Snow and Charming in the nursery and the war room…think Truman Show…but much much more. She chooses the cast, sets up the story and the people whose lives are broken do not know they are unwitting pawns.
I think as time went on she became lighter and lighter in her character, but I do not think the stories we have seen have been in chronoligical order. We started with the ending…the coffin. Is this where the finale picks up? I believe the story is being told out of order…backwards. As we have moved from season to season I think we are seeing the evolution of Snow’s story but in a convoluted order. She reboots the stories as and her skills get better and better. Of course she is the hero and her character gets the sympathy.
I think it is possible the “whatever it is” that we know as Snow White may have been rebooted as a child…maybe Charming too. I would not be surprised if we even see something like Prince Neal is actually King George…thus George raised his father as his son.
I think Snow, Margaret, Mary or whatever her name is knew about Disney long before she constructed a nursery. Maybe she stumbled upon Disney’s Snow White and decided she preferred that Snow White over her true self. She evolved ty o become the Disney Snow White. She used people as playthings to tell the story.
Last…Henry. Will he break bad?
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April 29, 2018 at 11:36 pm #346978nealfanforeverParticipantI like any idea that rewrites all of Once’s mistakes. I just wish it was possible.
imagine if the final episode was Henry being magically aged down to a child, but he keeps his memories and we get to see him run through every tragedy in Once and change the outcome. Graham lives. His father lives. Just this once everybody lives! THE END
Yes…would be amazing. It could be done another way…I am working it out in my head right now.
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