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October 22, 2012 at 2:44 pm #135137hmverhagenParticipant
Just before Hook leaves for Neverland, he says that he is going in order to plot proper revenge against Rumple. Does this mean that Hook is afraid of time? He is often depicted at becoming parnoid when a clock ticks, so perhaps the scene was a nod in that direction. I’ve sent a twitter to Colin, so if he responds, I’ll post the reply here.
[adrotate group="5"]October 22, 2012 at 3:06 pm #157602PheeParticipantWhen I saw the thread title, I thought it was gonna be about Rumple’s, “tick tock” line, which I thought was brilliant!
Anyway, I dunno that Hook is exactly afraid of time, but considering his opponent has all the power in the world AND eternal life, time is Hook’s enemy. Finding a way to defeat Rumple won’t be an easy task, it’ll take years, and Hook will want to remain in his prime for when the next battle happens. Won’t do him any good spending a lifetime trying to discover a way to defeat the Dark One if in the end, he’s too old to do anything about it.
October 23, 2012 at 12:31 am #157707zlfh4Participantok, so just a thought…what if the real reason Hook wants to kill Peter is because he is also Baelfire, Rumple’s son…If Hook wanted the perfect revenge killing Baelfire would be it…It would be an awesome way to bring Peter into the story and tie him in..we already know that it was not peter who actually cut off Hook’s hand.
October 23, 2012 at 4:13 am #157757schmackyParticipantHook seemed to actually love Milha. If Bae was Peter Pan and Hook wanted to kill him because of Rumple… that just doesn’t make sense. Because, he’d still be killing the son of the woman he loved. Even if she did abandon him. That’s still pretty cold.
Especially if she was telling the truth when she told Rumple she missed her son or whatever it is she said exactly. If Milha and Hook were in love, he probably knew about her pain in leaving her son… so to go out and kill him as a way to get back at Rumple for her death? Ehh.
October 23, 2012 at 6:38 pm #157856hmverhagenParticipantPhee, very well said. Exactly what I was trying to say! Lol. Good to know that people are around that have my back.
October 24, 2012 at 4:35 pm #157961hmverhagenParticipantI was trying to say that it seems like Hook is afraid that to much time will pass for him to get revenge on the croc. Whenever a clock showed itself in the Disney version, Hook’s afraid that he can’t kill the croc before it kills him, since it appears out of no where. Even though Rumple humiliated Hook instead, I can almost bet that Rumple would try to kill him next time they meet up. Hook probably feelings that the revenge he plots has to be devious enough that Hook won’t lose his own life in the process of inacting it.
October 25, 2012 at 12:09 pm #158015SlurpeezParticipantNow that we know Rumplestiltskin is the stand-in for the crocodile and that he said “tick-tock” I wonder if we can start to draw some familial connections. We saw that Mystery Man has clocks in his NY apartment. We also saw that Henry has clocks in his bedroom. They could be directly related: Rupmel, the grandfather, Mystery Man/Baelfire, the dad, and Henry, the grandson. Time has affected them all adversely in some way. Rumpel was cursed as the Dark One, and so has eternal life. Baelifre crossed time and space to come to our world or went to Neverland (where there is no time). Finally, Henry was the only child who could age in a town where time was frozen for 28 years due to he dark curse. All of them them have connections to time, which is symbolized by clocks.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 28, 2012 at 2:20 pm #158255ceegeParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
Now that we know Rumplestiltskin is the stand-in for the crocodile and that he said “tick-tock” I wonder if we can start to draw some familial connections. We saw that Mystery Man has clocks in his NY apartment. We also saw that Henry has clocks in his bedroom. They could be directly related: Rupmel, the grandfather, Mystery Man/Baelfire, the dad, and Henry, the grandson.
The clocks in Mystery Man’s apartment could have another significance.
Based on my interpretation of the clues, I believe MM is either the Tinman of Oz, or Igor from the Frankenstein movies. If he is Tinman, or any other character from Oz, the clocks could be a reference to the character Tik-Tok, who appears in the 1985 Disney production “Return to Oz”.
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