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No, no he wasn’t. He was putting up healthy boundaries between himself and his extremely borderline personality disorder/BPD mother. His expectations of her were consistent and fair. You both will have to point to specific examples within context, because I don’t know what you mean, I am afraid.
I’m going to include Henry’s treatment of not just Regina but Emma too. Henry wants Regina saved from the mob because “she’s my mom” despite season 1 being all “she’s the evil queen she must be defeated” then at the end he completely blows Regina off.
Henry was refering to the dark curse and the way she was treating people. He was not referring to her death when he used the word ”defeated.” Defeated means ”lost.” That does not always include death. Meanwhile the Regina is the evil queen, and she had done a very bad thing by cursing all these people…but he still acknowledges her as his mother. This is balanced thinking.
Of course he doesn’t want to be near her at the end of season 1. She was nasty. He loves her, and he knows that she is his Mom, but that doesn’t mean that he feels emotionally safe around her. It makes sense to create this boundary. It shows strength and maturity.
Regina takes Henry under duress but realise that that is not the healthy way to parent Henry. She lets him go with Charming because she wants to be better for Henry and redeem herself, something which Henry encourages. Henry then undermines this in the very next episode by calling Regina, asking to meet up for lunch, which is something Regina is very happy about and rushes to get there, all so he can steal her keys and break into her vault. Regina then phones Charming and tells him where Henry has gone because she doesn’t think he wants to see her. Henry led Regina on and gave her false hope of building bridges with her son.
Yes, this was bad… but what was he looking for in her vault? Was something he thought might help her addiction to magic? Can’t remember.
Rumple and Regina then seal off the portal to prevent Cora coming through but Henry convinces her to unseal it. Despite the effort nearly killing her, Henry completely then ignores Regina because Emma is back in town. They all head to Gold’s shop to save Charming. Henry is hugging Regina and talking about how she saved them but then completely drops her to head off to dinner with the group without so much as inviting her.
He acknowledges that she saved them. He is not ready to invite her because he is smart enough to realize that after all that she has done, she needs to prove her more to be fully trusted and therefore welcome at their table. Again, balanced thinking.
Henry believes Regina has killed Archie, this upsets Regina greatly thus making her more vulnerable to Cora’s manipulations. Upon Archie coming back, Henry proclaims that he “knew” Regina didn’t murder Archie. If he “knew”, why the hell did he not express this view?
Because that’s kids. He learned that from Emma so he trusted her. She was the savior and his other mother, afterall. He was probably 50/50 over it, conflicted and the ”I knew it” refers to the 50% doubt he had while considering that she did do it after all. He knew that there was a chance that she didn’t do it, but also knew that Emma was likely right, too. The other possibility was that ” I knew it!” was used as just as a turn of phrase to express relief, even if he didn’t ”know” anything at all.
I don’t know about you, I have said ”I knew it” after being conflicted over something, and not expressing my doubts because I trusted the opinion of another person over my own hunches. Henry likely trusted the adult (Emma)’s information or opinion more than he trusted his own instincts at that point.
And it is not unusual for adults and children to swing from having the courage of their conviction to having doubt in their intuition.
It is not Henry’s fault that Regina chose to go back to her mother.
In New York, Henry finds out Emma lied about his father. There are valid reasons why she did this. Henry suddenly started treating Emma like he did Regina where his old parent drops out of favour because a new parent has suddenly come on the scene. Emma did not like this and apologises because she just wants Henry to talk to her again
Henry has good reasons to be upset that Emma lied about his origins (which includes who is dad was, whether he is still alive etc), so if course he was annoyed with her for a while. It is not nice being lied to, and it not nice for adopted children to feel like they don’t know their true and biological origins, as it is a part of the self-identity. This is not treating Emma like a parent who has fallen out of favor, and Emma should apologise to him for that.
Besides, I would like to focus on his treatment of Regina.
In a later episode, Henry demands to be told what is going on even though it is absolutely none of his business. Emma gives in, not wanting to suffer the Regina treatment again. Henry then storms off because he didn’t like what he heard.
You will have to be more specific. What were they talking about? Besides, I would like to focus on his treatment of Regina.
Regina misses Henry so much that she just wants him to love her so comes up with the empty heart curse. Henry then has the most stupidest idea ever to blow up magic (it was so stupid, it would’ve served him right if he blew himself up). Regina stops him and he convinces her that she doesn’t need to use the empty heart curse because he already loves her. He then ditches her again once she destroys the curse and nobody tells him how stupid he was for messing with dynamite.
Regina told him that he was stupid for messing with the dynamite. I think he was just trying to protect himself by blowing up magic, but i think he should have told Emma about it so that she could solve the problem in a less destructive manner.
It is not Henry’s fault that Regina *chose* to do the abusive, control-freaky, BPD thing and make a potion that would force him to love her. (So what if she was desperate for his love? No excuse to be a control freak!) Of course he does not want to be controlled in that way. Of course he wants the love he has to give her to be real.vSo…of course he ditches her again. She was being abusive again. Just because you love someone, doesn’t mean you have to tolerate abuse from them. It’s okay to put up this boundary.
I think we can assume that Emma told him off for messing with the dynamite during dinner, that it happened off screen.
To summarize, with the exception of him tricking Regina, his attitude has been:
You are my mom and I love you, but you have done some horrible things in the past and more recently in the curse as the EQ, and you have done some control-freaky things towards me recently, I don’t like that nor feel emotionally safe, so I am going to put some distance between us for now. Also, I don’t want you to die, because you are my mom, but you do need to pay, or better yourself. If you better yourself, I might be able to trust you again.
Before Emma arrived, we learned that Henry wasn’t happy with Regina then, either. When he was given the book, his attitude towards her changed perhaps, and rightly so. Maybe he felt loved in the past before the book arrived, but it is wise to bear in mind his mother’s past and bear in mind that she had been hiding a lot of truths from him. It is natural for a 10 year old to freak out upon learning that your mother is the EQ, and throw the notion of any love she has for him out of the window. Emma held something from him too, but at least she was not as bad as Regina in the past. Out of the two, she was the safer choice at that time.
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No, no he wasn’t. He was putting up healthy boundaries between himself and his extremely borderline personality disorder/BPD mother. His expectations of her were consistent and fair. You both will have to point to specific examples within context, because I don’t know what you mean, I am afraid.
I’m going to include Henry’s treatment of not just Regina but Emma too. Henry wants Regina saved from the mob because “she’s my mom” despite season 1 being all “she’s the evil queen she must be defeated” then at the end he completely blows Regina off. Regina takes Henry under duress but realise that that is not the healthy way to parent Henry. She lets him go with Charming because she wants to be better for Henry and redeem herself, something which Henry encourages. Henry then undermines this in the very next episode by calling Regina, asking to meet up for lunch, which is something Regina is very happy about and rushes to get there, all so he can steal her keys and break into her vault. Regina then phones Charming and tells him where Henry has gone because she doesn’t think he wants to see her. Henry led Regina on and gave her false hope of building bridges with her son. Rumple and Regina then seal off the portal to prevent Cora coming through but Henry convinces her to unseal it. Despite the effort nearly killing her, Henry completely then ignores Regina because Emma is back in town. They all head to Gold’s shop to save Charming. Henry is hugging Regina and talking about how she saved them but then completely drops her to head off to dinner with the group without so much as inviting her. Henry believes Regina has killed Archie, this upsets Regina greatly thus making her more vulnerable to Cora’s manipulations. Upon Archie coming back, Henry proclaims that he “knew” Regina didn’t murder Archie. If he “knew”, why the hell did he not express this view? In New York, Henry finds out Emma lied about his father. There are valid reasons why she did this. Henry suddenly started treating Emma like he did Regina where his old parent drops out of favour because a new parent has suddenly come on the scene. Emma did not like this and apologises because she just wants Henry to talk to her again. In a later episode, Henry demands to be told what is going on even though it is absolutely none of his business. Emma gives in, not wanting to suffer the Regina treatment again. Henry then storms off because he didn’t like what he heard. Regina misses Henry so much that she just wants him to love her so comes up with the empty heart curse. Henry then has the most stupidest idea ever to blow up magic (it was so stupid, it would’ve served him right if he blew himself up). Regina stops him and he convinces her that she doesn’t need to use the empty heart curse because he already loves her. He then ditches her again once she destroys the curse and nobody tells him how stupid he was for messing with dynamite.
All of this…yep…just yep.
Well said @PriceofMagic…well said!
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Ya know, other than to bring Zelena back, does the whole Marian=Zelena thing really need to happen in order to make OQ happen? I mean, Marian already knows the deal. She knows and accepts RH is in love with Regina, she already expressed knowledge and acceptance over it, and we know about the page showing they already met in the past before it was seemingly altered or whatever. Sure, RH had to leave SB to save Marian and all but they could have just shown them raising Roland as two, separated parents in New York. Heck, maybe in the six weeks there maybe Marian would have met some another person and started to move on herself. (Ofcourse this person would inevitably be revealed to be some sort of villain/fairytale character trapped in our land too because this is OUAT). Anyway, OQ would be free to be as they are without them having to pull this whole magical mumbo wumbo timey wimey, alternate person inside a person thing just to get viewers to accept OQ. Right?
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