Regina and Robin Hood

[Keb]

I’m still not persuaded by Regal Hood’s potential, though they cleared the way for it at any rate.

But here’s what really, really bothers me about it:

We’ve seen what Regina did to kids before Henry–Hansel and Gretel, Snow White, and Owen. Particularly Owen bothers me in this case. Because Roland.

And Roland is, at least in a spiritual sense, Belle’s godson. She saved his parents’ lives so he could be born. (Also, Rumbelle feels–so Bae could get back to his father and son…which is the redeeming bit of yet another ep without any Belle.) I don’t want Regina to ruin Roland’s life 🙁

[RumplesGirl]

But here’s what really, really bothers me about it: We’ve seen what Regina did to kids before Henry–Hansel and Gretel, Snow White, and Owen. Particularly Owen bothers me in this case. Because Roland.

Yes but I think Regina is trying to reform. I don’t think she actively set out to ruin those child’s lives (apart from Snow). She did offer H and G a good life before she banished them. She offered Owen a home–and he even wanted it. She’s done horrible things, to be sure, but she’s trying to prove herself and I think episode really showed that she regrets choosing revenge over hope and love.

 

(and in other news, I am defending Regina and the world has gone mad)

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Keb]

I think 303 explained Regina’s psychology better than any episode so far…and made the evil queen so very very human. And you’re right, she didn’t intend to hurt Owen (or Henry for that matter), and initially she even saved Snow’s life. But she DID hurt all of them. So if she hooks up with RH, I’m very worried for Roland. Regina might be a loving mother, but she’s not a good one.

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[kfchimera]

That is why I like that they showed us who so we could start shipping, but not  to  Regina herself because she really is not ready for it yet.  Her thought was still can someone else make ME happy–not can I make another person happy?  I wonder how they will react to each other when they meet.  I hope she is NOT the pursuer here.

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[RumplesGirl]

That is why I like that they showed us who so we could start shipping, but not to Regina herself because she really is not ready for it yet. Her thought was still can someone else make ME happy–not can I make another person happy? I wonder how they will react to each other when they meet. I hope she is NOT the pursuer here.

I actually think Regina will run for the hills when she finally meets RH. She’s going to be terrified of the idea of being in love again.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

I wonder how he’ll react is, or more like when, he finds out about Regina and the tattooed prediction and her walking away. I think he’ll be totally fine with it. Things happen for a reason and unlike Tink’s prediction, she didn’t ruin his life. He had love and a little boy. Fate works in mysterious ways.

I think they maybe had Tink tell Regina that so that it’ll make more sense when she’s reluctant to get involved with him in the future. I don’t think that Tink said it with any nefarious intent, I think it’s just that she assumed his life was ruined by them not meeting because Regina’s had been ruined, but nevertheless, she’s planted a seed in Regina’s head that will contribute to her sense of not feeling worthy when it comes time for her second chance with Robin.

Keb wrote:

But here’s what really, really bothers me about it: We’ve seen what Regina did to kids before Henry–Hansel and Gretel, Snow White, and Owen. Particularly Owen bothers me in this case. Because Roland.

Yes but I think Regina is trying to reform. I don’t think she actively set out to ruin those child’s lives (apart from Snow). She did offer H and G a good life before she banished them. She offered Owen a home–and he even wanted it. She’s done horrible things, to be sure, but she’s trying to prove herself and I think episode really showed that she regrets choosing revenge over hope and love.

They will have to reform her to the point of not being a danger to children at some point, because Henry. They’re not gonna end this show with one of Henry’s mothers on the outer while the other one gets all the love and custody, and the only way the Charmings are gonna be OK with Regina being back in Henry’s life is if it’s in a non-life-threatening capacity. So I think that by the end of this NL arc, Regina will be well on her way to LEGIT reform, unlike last season’s back and forth stuff.

One thing I’ve always thought that RegalHood had going for it was that Robin is a powerful leader, who uses his power to benefit others and it inspires loyalty from them. This is something Regina needs a lesson in, (and she’s not gonna accept that lesson from the Charmings). We saw a perfect example of her warped logic with Hansel and Gretel, where she couldn’t understand why they remained loyal to their father, instead of accepting her (in her view) generous offer. She needs to learn that she can’t get people to look up to her by stomping them down and stripping away their freedom. It is possible to be powerful, and influential, without destroying people in the process. This is something that Robin could help her to see, and as she learns these things, and changes for the better, I don’t see her being a threat to either Henry or Roland in the future.

(and in other news, I am defending Regina and the world has gone mad)

Like I was saying, Robin Hood is a powerful guy, just look at what he’s making us do. 😉

[MysteryKat25]

Basically…everything Phee just said.

I’m really excited to learn more about Robin Hood and I think that when Regina is ready (she has a ways to go still) they’ll be a great match (and adorable little Roland is a wonderful bonus for her!)

I don’t think they’ll have her redeemed and find love but not able to be a good mother. I think Roland will be her chance to actually do it right.

Phee I LOVED what you said about Robin Hood inspiring loyalty and it being a lesson Regina needs to learn. Absolutely! And there’s no way she’s learning it from anybody other than him.

I have complete faith that she will get it right this time around. We’ve seen her try to befriend children who wanted nothing to do with her, a child who was interested but she completely ignored the seemingly cool dad in the picture and literally just wanted his kid, and this time she gets the whole package and an example of how to do things the right way that isn’t coming from one of her enemies which would be way too hard for someone with her stubborn pride to swallow.

She KNOWS she screwed up with Henry. Big time. She’s having to fight like you know what to get back on his good side and be a part of stuff. It was awesome to see the Charmings be worried about her and race to go save her from Tink as they consider her one of them now. It may not be ideal, and they’ll never all get along, but they all co-exist and are FAMILY and they keep showing her that. She didn’t take off on them either and she could have a long time ago. She doens’t WANT to deal with them, but ALL of them are important to Henry and she knows and I think recognizes that now.

She keeps coming back to that idea anyway, even if she stumbles a bit here and there, and I think the events of the finale really changed things. It’s tough to go face people like the Charmings after something like that though when you’ve spent forever doing things to make them find you untrustworthy, but they’re still looking out for her and including her. She just needs some time but there is definitely potential for her to redeem herself and become the kind of person she was meant to be and in finding herself, find love again with Robin Hood (who also lost his love) and get another chance to be a mom as well. I think it’ll be great, and I bet Henry will love having a little brother (how adorable will that be?!?)

So I have high hopes for RegalHood or whatever we’re calling it now. I’m glad we have some answers and know what to look for and have high hopes for. So much better than not knowing. I had only mildly shipped her before but wasn’t too invested and didn’t see myself really being invested in a Regina ship anytime soon even though I’ve always said I wanted her to find love eventually and poof, Robin Hood appears and saves the day!

I’m sure the show will make it wonderful and we’ll love it and wonder how we lived without it before. I remember MANY people being upset over a certain 2 week break when a promo revealed that Rumple was the beast and then BAM, overnight RumBelle fans. Have faith!

We definitely need to pick a name though. So many options I can’t decide but I’m looking forward to seeing it play out!

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[RumplesGirl]

We definitely need to pick a name though. So many options I can’t decide but I’m looking forward to seeing it play out!

What is Tumblr using? They normally pick out these things. We started with RegalHood around these parts but I’m open to RegalArrow as well.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

RegalHood and RegalArrow both get used on tumblr. But so does OutlawQueen now and then. No one name has really taken over yet.

[Slurpeez]

Having seen more of Robin Hood and Regina’s story unfold, I’m intrigued. Why is Regina so afraid to love again? Is it because she’s merely afraid of losing love again? Or is it deeper? I think she might be scared of rejection, even if the man with the lion tattoo is her soulmate.

As for Robin Hood, does Regina being his soulmate mean Marian was not? Or can people have more than one soulmate? Obviously, Robin Hood really loved Marian and Regina really loved Daniel. I’m thinking that the show is suggesting a positive message that a person who has loved and lost can find love again. That is a common thread that links Regina and Robin since both have been widowed young so to speak. Both are parents to sons already. Family life is something they both cherish and would value in a would-be partner. All good things which could help bind Regina and Robin.

Both Regina and Robin know what it means to be leaders. And yet, their leadership styles are vastly different. Can Robin help Regina regain her integrity and show her what it means to be a true leader of men? Or will RH be put off by Regina having cast the dark curse? Obviously, RH was left behind to witness the destruction to post-apocalyptic EF. There are lots of hurdles potentially to overcome.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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