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Well, redemption is a really nebulous term that implies some sort of equal exchange. Do “x” number of good deeds to make up for “x” number of bad deeds. Rehabilitation is far more future-focused.
Belle. Being clever since always 😀
When Belle was giving her little speech to Red, did anyone else get the feeling she was thinking of Rumple?
Her comment about not caring about the past makes me think that she is going to stand by Rumple when Hook comes to town and reveals what Rumple did to Milah.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI’d expect nothing less of someone like Belle. She knows he’s done bad things, but she’s chosen to forgive him for that as long as he tries to do the right thing from here on out.
Belle brings out the best in Rumple. It’ll be interesting how Rumple and Red interact from now on. Rumple and Belle are trying to get their relationship back on track, Red is Belle’s friend and is going to want to look out for her. However Rumple has a bad reputation and Red doesn’t trust him. She wouldn’t have helped Rumple find Belle had Charming not been there.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@beautyistruth wrote:
There was quite a noticeable reaction of general horror when Rumple killed Milah in the Crocodile. Fair enough. Killing your ex-wife in a fit of anger is really, really bad. Now, I wasn’t part of the online fandom when “Forbidden Fruit” came out, but retrospectively, it doesn’t seem like there was near the amount of horror when Regina emotionally manipulated the genie to murder Leopold.
I think that is a great insight. I didn’t tally any statistics, but it did seem to me that there were more online expressions of shock over Rumple’s murder of Milah than there were over Regina’s murder of Leopold. And while neither crime was justified, I personally found Leopold a somewhat more sympathetic character than Milah.
I agree that both Rumple and Regina are evil and that both have the potential for rehabilitation and redemption, but I can’t really rank one as worse than the other. I was tempted to tally up a body count for each villain, but that’s really irrelevant and it leads to questions of who counts as a “victim”. Personally, I wouldn’t count Hodor and his soldiers whom Rumple killed in “Desperate Souls” as victims. They were heavily armed soldiers whom Rumple killed in order to protect Bae, much as Snow and Charming have killed many of the soldiers from Regina’s and George’s armies.
Just as I have enjoyed seeing Regina begin to try to reform, I enjoyed seeing Rumple’s act of kindness in giving the amulet to Henry in “Child of the Moon.” Like his love for Belle, it shows Rumple still has traces of the good that was in him before he became the Dark One. I found it especially significant that despite Regina’s imprisonment of Belle and Rumple’s attempt to send the wraith after Regina, Regina was willing to ask Rumple for help with Henry’s affliction and Rumple was willing to give it. Both were willing to put aside their anger toward the other for Henry’s sake. I love the fact that we have such complex and tragic villains. And while both are ultimately responsible for their actions, it’s worth remembering that both are examples of the fact that “Evil isn’t born, it’s made.” Rumple was corrupted by Zoso and Regina was corrupted by Rumple and Cora. Of course, I don’t think either should try to use the Nuremberg defense, “I was just following orders.”
Also, as I’ve said before, if someone (Cora? King George?) tries to harm Henry, I think we will see Regina’s “no more magic” rule go out the window in a heartbeat. Her reaction in that case could be pretty bloodthirsty while still maintaining some sympathy from the audience.
The reaction to Rumple’s murder of Milah could have been worse because it wasn’t expected of Rumple to be that evil whereas when Regina’s murder of Leopold aired, Stable Boy hadn’t aired so the audience only knew Regina to be evil so it was kind of expected of her. Rumple was kind of a fun villain.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@PriceofMagic wrote:
The reaction to Rumple’s murder of Milah could have been worse because it wasn’t expected of Rumple to be that evil whereas when Regina’s murder of Leopold aired, Stable Boy hadn’t aired so the audience only knew Regina to be evil so it was kind of expected of her. Rumple was kind of a fun villain.
That’s a great point! I hadn’t thought of that, but you’re right. Before “The Stable Boy” we had only seen the evil side of Regina, with just some vague hints that she had suffered some terrible loss in her past.
PriceofMagic wrote:The reaction to Rumple’s murder of Milah could have been worse because it wasn’t expected of Rumple to be that evil whereas when Regina’s murder of Leopold aired, Stable Boy hadn’t aired so the audience only knew Regina to be evil so it was kind of expected of her. Rumple was kind of a fun villain.Very good point yes!
@medchen wrote:
Why doesnt the quote thing work the same way when I do it as when you guys do it ????
I don’t know; the command string for a quote is clearly showing up in your post but not being interpreted for some reason. Have you tried any of the other functions that insert formatting commands, like Bold, Italic, or Underline? Do they have the same problem?
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