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June 17, 2012 at 12:30 am #148794elleParticipant
I think Regina does love Henry–not a healthy love (she is controlling and tried numerous times to kill his loved ones out of spite and paranoia) but it is a love (closing to obession) nevertheless. If she truly did not love him, then why would she have kept him? Mr. gold practically spelled it out for her that Emma was the daughter of Snow White in one of the earlier episodes–and Regina is smart, so it was easy for her to put it all together on who Henry’s family really was. Yet she still kept him. She had threatend and was going to kill Prince Charming, she had tried countless times to kill Emma and Snow White, and she had killed King Leopold. But not once did she lay a finger on Henry. Also, if she wanted Emma gone so much, why not just hand Henry over? As much of a hero as Emma is, her love and concern is firstly for her son. If Regina had asked Emma to leave in exchange for custody of Henry, I have no doubt that Emma would have done just that.
Many people mention all the time how Regina killed her father, who was one of the people she truly cared for, but it is interesting to note that, despite her love for him, she did display resentment towards him. That is probably due to her past with Daniel, her mother, and King Leopold. Granted, it does make me worry for Henry–she could easily view him as such, though in the last episode, she seemed not the slightest angry at him, despite the fact that he was happy about the curse being broken. Despite that, her anger is unpredicitable at times, and even the smallest slight that send forth waves of rage at her victims.
There is also the last episode. Regina did not even try to deny the existence of magic–she admitted it outright that Henry was right the whole time, and was right away willing to go to Rumpelstiltskin, despite not trusting him (with good reason). And she did show remorse–when Henry was lying in bed, she apologized–I think this was the first time that the consequences of her actions hit her hard. Never had something like that happened before, other than Daniel being killed (though that wasn’t her fault) and it was the first time she truly showed remorse, the other time being when she left the Mad Hatter (though she did try to justify that).
[adrotate group="5"]August 20, 2012 at 7:41 pm #153152WickedRegalParticipant😈
First of all, let’s get one thing straight haters! Henry is weak *please avoid profanities* boy! Regina has been through too much hell and water to be talked about by Charming and Happily Ever After Lovers! Okay let’s get that straight! I personally don’t understand why she would fight for a boy who has called her evil to her face, stays out as late as he wants, that’s right Charmers, he runs away, How is Regina supposed to know where he is, her problem was trusting him in the beginning, she should have Sidney watching him, this woman is the damn mayor trying to run a town, while trying to please this 10 year old brat, and doing battle with the woman he gave up, and trying hard *please avoid profanities* to not lose her damn mind. I would have packed Henry’s mess, and threw it out the damn window to him Emma, and all the other people who want him, and disown him. If you are not going to respect me, you’re out of here, 10 years I put buying you things for christmas, birthdays, money, clothes, food, and whatever the hell else you need, and you gone run out and get your birth parent, and rub it in my face. I wouldn’t give a damn else about Henry, and I would have told Emma to take him, and get the hell out of my town, and saved the curse, they don’t age, so Regina could have adopted another baby, and raised him or her.
Next, we all know Regina is one of the cruelest, wickedest, bitchiest witch there ever was, not to mention the most powerful! Is that really her fault? No! It is Snow White! That Snowflake’s actions darkened Regina’s heart, so if you want to bash somebody, bash her and Cora! True Snow was a 12 year old child, but let’s not forget people, we were once children, and if somebody asked, no begged and pleaded with us to never tell their secret, would you still have done it, especially toward their mother who Regina said ABOVE ALL ELSE NOT MY MOTHER! I don’t care how sad their parent maybe, as a child who’s holding what seems to be a very important secret, I would have told her nothing! She should have just walked out the room when she saw Cora! Snow was also a selfish child, single people and spouses, put yourselves in Regina’s shoes, if you were truly in love with someone who was there for you even through child abuse, and neglection, and tried their best to console and protect you, and even loved you despite what harmful words thrown by your mother, and your father doesn’t do crap about it! He gets killed because you entrusted a 12 year old with your secret, who’s known to be spoiled, and you are forced to marry their father who is 3 times your damn age (Regina: 19, Leo: 57), and be a mother to the one who betrayed you, and trapped in a loveless marriage, while your mother celebrates! Not to mention, the brat gets married, and has her happily ever after, after she destroyed yours, and made you seem like the bad guy, making it seem like you wanted her gone just because she looks prettier, Snow knows it is not that, and refuses to tell the truth of what really went down between her and Regina! Regina more than likely snapped in the mind! Also, if she wanted to really,really kill Snow White, wouldn’t she have killed her in Storybrooke, and nobody would have noticed! No, so Snow better be grateful for that! Also is you look closely (Stable Boy) where Mary Margret is getting interviewed about Kathryn’s death, you can see the hurt on Regina’s face as it seemed she thought of it as Mary getting grilled about Daniel’s death, especially when Mary Margraet said.
I quote Mary Margret/Snow: Yes, of course I wanted her (Him) gone! She (He) was the only thing keeping us (Regina and Snow) apart, so yeah, I wanted her (Him) gone! Is that what you wanna hear!* Okay, so people, while you are trying to say she was only 12, this woman even though confessed to wanting Kathryn gone, is still Snow on the inside to where 12 year old Snow probably really wanted Daniel gone, and told her mother purposely, just so she can have Regina to herself as a mother! Snow might have an angelic face, but the heart of a spoiled soul, which we especially saw even though it was the potion in Heart of Darkness! Snow is really spoiled!
This is all I have to say about this, and I really want you all to think about what I just said because, yes, Regina may have turned to darkness, but that’s not her fault, and she may have not always made the best choices with Henry, but she made a hell of a lot more than wrong, and was a damn strict good mother! No mother is perfect, especially when Regina had one such as Cora, so she did better than what some people think as a single mother compared to her wicked married mother!
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August 20, 2012 at 8:29 pm #153157PriceofMagicParticipantIn Price of Gold, Emma says to Henry (in regards to Ashley) “anyone who wants to be a mother should damn well allow to be one”. Regina wants to be a mother to Henry but Emma’s not going to allow that which is technically hypocritical of Emma. Regina did a fairly decent job raising Henry however she wasn’t meeting his emotional needs and he felt like she didn’t love him and that she only pretended to. This may not be entirely Regina’s fault, enacting the curse left a void that she would never be able to fill, so it is possible that she loves Henry as much as she is capable but it isn’t good enough. On the other hand, Regina isn’t a great mother, she will often put her own wants and needs above Henry and even when Henry gets hurt, she doesn’t care so long as she can get one up on Emma.
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Keeper of FelixAugust 20, 2012 at 10:26 pm #153163hjbauParticipantWhat is happening in this thread? Oh my.
August 20, 2012 at 11:16 pm #153164lilredParticipantI think we’ve got a troll. Can’t tell though, started laughing at Henry being explained as a weak bastard boy. Wow! Someone needs to watch their language on this site!
August 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm #153165midnight drearyParticipantWhat the?!?!?!?!?!?! 😆
August 20, 2012 at 11:24 pm #153167hjbauParticipantSorry i just hadn’t been in the character section in awhile and i clicked on one and it was unexpected.
August 20, 2012 at 11:28 pm #153169midnight drearyParticipantIt caught me off guard too. 😆
August 20, 2012 at 11:32 pm #153170elleParticipantIt is a bit much to call Henry a brat–in fact, it is a bit unfair. Yes Henry hates Regina, but not without reason. 🙂
Regina obviously keeps him on a tight leash. And while I gave a small defense for her, her attitude in many episodes towards him can be seen as almost cold and the few glares she gave him when he defied her showed a spark of the Evil Queen. I don’t think she would ever hurt him intentionally (for now at least) but her actions have hurt him emotionally.
There is also the fact that she tried several times to kill his grandparents, and then took their happiness away and basked in their misery. Seperate Regina’s motivation (and despite the sympathy, I do not agree with Regina) for what she did for a moment and focus on the act itself, and how Henry views it. He sees his grandparents, he grew close with Mary Margaret, and all he wants if for them to wake up and have their happiness back. He cares for others like Jiminy and Ruby, and he saw how close Mary Margaret was to leaving Storybrooke and possible being killed. And he sees the hatred she has for Emma, and how she has gone to extremes to drive Emma away–that obession shows, even if Regina tries to hide it. He knows she killed off Graham (he felt guilt for that himself) and he seems to partly fear her wrath on others–he says it is good that Emma does not believe in the same episode, so that she won’t be next.
August 20, 2012 at 11:48 pm #153172AliasscapeParticipant@PriceofMagic wrote:
In Price of Gold, Emma says to Henry (in regards to Ashley) “anyone who wants to be a mother should *(please avoid obscenities)* well allow to be one”. Regina wants to be a mother to Henry but Emma’s not going to allow that which is technically hypocritical of Emma. Regina did a fairly decent job raising Henry however she wasn’t meeting his emotional needs and he felt like she didn’t love him and that she only pretended to. This may not be entirely Regina’s fault, enacting the curse left a void that she would never be able to fill, so it is possible that she loves Henry as much as she is capable but it isn’t good enough. On the other hand, Regina isn’t a great mother, she will often put her own wants and needs above Henry and even when Henry gets hurt, she doesn’t care so long as she can get one up on Emma.
But Regina WAS allowed to be one, for 10 whole years. She got to give it a try. During which time, she kept an entire world enslaved, murdered Graham, tried to arrange for something bad to happen to Hansel and Gretel, tried to arrange Kathryn’s murder, framed Mary Margaret, attempted to kill Emma (but oops killed Henry instead.) and held Belle captive in the basement of the hospital.
If she really wanted to be a mother, then that’s what she should have done, instead of all that other illegal, dangerous, and harmful stuff.
Regina’s need for vengeance has now hurt Henry, mentally, emotionally and physically. The only person Regina really has to blame for no longer being Henry’s mother, is herself.
Henry’s “brattiness” is standing up for the rights of other human beings to live their own lives out from under Regina’s control, or to you know be allowed to live period. Kids these days huh? Thinking he shouldn’t be the only person in town who doesn’t have to fear being next on Regina’s “To Kill” list. I bet he thinks other people have the right to eat and stuff too.
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