Regina Mills/Evil Queen Character Analysis

[obisgirl]

I’d like to propose three new questions:

Is the Evil Queen really powerful?

If the Evil Queen is so powerful, why does she need to continually steal ‘things’ from other people in order to exact her revenge against Snow White?

and

get other people to steal ‘those things’ for her?

[hjbau]

Yes. The queen is really powerful. In the fairytale land she has a country, she has soldiers, she has magics, she has information and as of now in the fairytale land she seems to have everyone believing that Snow is a traitor and a murderer. I think that is going to change eventually and the people will be on Snow’s side. We have already seen a bit of that with Charming helping Abigail and Frederick. And we know that in the future Snow goes to Cinderella’s wedding and that they are having a war counsel in Charming’s castle, so they will get there and the queen will lose some of that power.

She still has magic and information though and soldiers even at the time of the curse. And in Storybrooke she pretty much is the absolute ruler of everyone. That is also going to change. We saw Gold using the please against her and we saw Emma starting to believe that she can play against her and Gold telling Emma that she is more powerful then she thinks. So i say yes that the Queen has power, but that she is going to lose it. Though maybe not her magics.

[obisgirl]

There is ‘magical’ power and than ‘authoritative’ power and in FT flashbacks (before the curse), Regina has both. But if she is so powerful though, why does she need to continually steal ‘things’ from other people in order to exact her revenge against Snow White? (i.e getting Hansel & Gretel to steal the poisoned apple from the blind witch).

[mia]

New topic: I’m sorry, how dumb is Regina? ^^’

Ok, so she never learnt that the child of Snow White and Prince Charming would be a daughter, yet in the Pilot Gold says to her “I would say you think you know exactly who she is.” That does suggest that she should know or at least has some clue who Emma is. And in the coming weeks/months Emma gives plenty of reason to suggest to Regina her true identity – she’s got an aweful lot to do with MM and so on.
HOW come Regina just doesn’t kill her off? It would solve all her problems?? Sure, no more plot for Once Upon a Time, but I still keep wondering. It would’ve been soo easy. She knows Emma doesn’t have any relations, etc in the rest of the world. Come ON, woman!

Can someone please explain to me her behaviour?

[Snickerdoodle]

I will say that In epi2 “The Thing You Love Most” Regina says to her father that everybody already thinks she is nothing:

Evil Queen: Daddy, I don’t know what to do.

Henry I: My dear, please. You don’t have to do this.

Evil Queen: I have to do something.

Henry I: Then move past this. I know this may sound self-serving, but you don’t need to enact the curse.

Evil Queen: But I can’t keep living like this. What Snow did to me, what she took from me? It’s eating me alive, Daddy. Her very existence mocks me. She must be punished.

Henry I: But, if the price is a hole that will never be filled, why do it? Stop worrying about Snow White and start over. We can have a new life.

Evil Queen: But what kind of life? All I’ve worked for, all I’ve built, would be gone. My power will disappear. They already think I’m nothing.

also with Malificent:

Maleficent: Don’t do this. This…curse. There are lines even we shouldn’t cross. All power comes with a price. Enacting it will take a terrible toll. It will leave an emptiness inside you. A void you will never be able to fill.

Evil Queen: So be it.

These two scenes sums up the EQ/Regina in a nutshell. She is bent on punishing SW to the point that she can’t think clearly enough to save her own father from her intent, even though we just saw her rescue him from Wonderland. Guess family wasn’t more important than her own vengeance. Also, there is a void in her heart that cannot be filled, which Rumpel reiterated on when talking to Charming and which Malificent stated as well. Lastly, the comment they already think I’m nothing somehow came about between Charming’s capture and his and Snow’s wedding, because everyone was at the wedding celebrating when Regina showed up with her promise of no more happy endings. So we have yet to see what circumstances turned everything around for Snow and Charming, and how Regina was brought low.

In Regards to getting rid of Emma — I think she could have done that for 28 years, she could have gotten rid of people, but her goal is not to get rid of but to control people and their destinies to an unhappiness she can relish in, knowing she provided it. Look at what she did to poor Jefferson. Looking through his telescope at his daughter all those years, waiting. It was his curse, he said. I’m wondering if FT characters can even die without some type of magic involved. Maybe that’s why Regina can’t touch Emma.

I do think sometimes she is conflicted but when she remembers what she has set out to do, it sets her course. The goal is not to get rid of but to rule over and control the destinies of others with unhappy endings.

[hjbau]

I actually think that Regina has gotten complacent. I mean it has been 28 years with nothing changing. She pretty much has absolute rule in Storybrooke. Emma has become an annoyance, but i think that some part of Regina is enjoying playing the game with her. Actually having an adversary.

Also i think it is a huge leap for Regina to consider that the child she adopted was the child of Snow and Charming. Regina doesn’t even have a reason to believe that their child went to the real world or that the child is not stuck in the curse with everyone else or in one of the many other lands that we learned about in the last episode. And to think that the child she adopted is Snow’s grandson. It is a big leap. And i don’t think that queen knows anything about Emma breaking the curse 28 years later. I don’t think she knows about that.

Though really i think the answer is that the Queen has become complacient and she is bored and is having fun. And really she feels like she has put Emma under her control. Emma has really backed off and now is doing what Regina said. There was the incident with Sidney. And now Emma has arrested Mary and Regina has no idea that Emma suspects her. I just think that it is a leap that Regina isn’t considering.

[obisgirl]

@sjm wrote:

She is bent on punishing SW to the point that she can’t think clearly enough to save her own father from her intent, even though we just saw her rescue him from Wonderland. Guess family wasn’t more important than her own vengeance. Also, there is a void in her heart that cannot be filled, which Rumpel reiterated on when talking to Charming and which Malificent stated as well. Lastly, the comment they already think I’m nothing somehow came about between Charming’s capture and his and Snow’s wedding, because everyone was at the wedding celebrating when Regina showed up with her promise of no more happy endings. So we have yet to see what circumstances turned everything around for Snow and Charming, and how Regina was brought low.

In Regards to getting rid of Emma — I think she could have done that for 28 years, she could have gotten rid of people, but her goal is not to get rid of but to control people and their destinies to an unhappiness she can relish in, knowing she provided it. Look at what she did to poor Jefferson. Looking through his telescope at his daughter all those years, waiting. It was his curse, he said. I’m wondering if FT characters can even die without some type of magic involved. Maybe that’s why Regina can’t touch Emma.

I do think sometimes she is conflicted but when she remembers what she has set out to do, it sets her course. The goal is not to get rid of but to rule over and control the destinies of others with unhappy endings.

I agree.

@mia wrote:

New topic: I’m sorry, how dumb is Regina? ^^’

Ok, so she never learned that the child of Snow White and Prince Charming would be a daughter, yet in the Pilot Gold says to her “I would say you think you know exactly who she is.” That does suggest that she should know or at least has some clue who Emma is. And in the coming weeks/months Emma gives plenty of reason to suggest to Regina her true identity – she’s got an awful lot to do with MM and so on.

Can someone please explain to me her behavior?

It’s been a long time since the pilot but I think, when the Evil Queen stormed the castle, she demanded to know from Snow White where ‘she is’ – referring to baby Emma. i think she does know the gender of the child, the only thing she doesn’t know is her name. Only Mr. Gold/Rumpel knows the name of Charming & Snow’s child because that was the deal he made with them to ensure Emma’s safety from the curse.

[mia]

Thanks for all of your views and opinions. Somehow I lost track there. Found my way back. 😀
The idea that Regina’s really got no clue of who Emma is, is intriguing. 😎 I mean, no clue at all. Wonder what face she’ll make when she finds out. Though knowing her child is Snow’s grandson cold be the source of conflicting feelings …
Well, can’t wait to learn more about the character next Sunday or rather Monday for me.

[Snickerdoodle]

Just watched the pilot again the other day (third time, now)

Regina knows Snow and Charming’s baby is the key to the curse. Rumpel told her that in Epi 2

Evil Queen: What’d you tell them?

Rumpelstiltskin: The truth! That nothing can stop the darkness. Except, of course, their unborn child. You see, no matter how powerful, all curses can be broken. Their child is the key. Of course, the curse has to be enacted first.

and in the pilot when the Queen comes to the castle, this dialogue:

Evil Queen: The child?

Guard: Gone. It was in the wardrobe, and then it was gone. It’s nowhere to be found.

Evil Queen: Where is she?

Snow White: She got away… You’re going to lose. I know that now. Good will always win.

Evil Queen: We’ll see about that.

So Regina knows it’s a girl and she’s the key to breaking the curse. What she doesn’t know is her name and that she would show up on her 28th birthday… only Rumple, Snow, and Charming know that.

[mia]

😐 Ok, I do agree that she doesn’t kill Emma, because she’s much more the person to “play with the food before she eats it”, but there remains the question of her knowing or not. Shouldn’t she be even more suspicious of Emma and try figuring out if she is Snow’s daughter or not? She’s the Evil Queen for haven’s sake! There has to be a way for her to find out (if she doesn’t already know).
We have only seen Regina going against Emma because of Henry, but never because of Emma being close to MM or so. Maybe we’ll see something in the next episode …

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