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June 17, 2014 at 11:34 am #274169RumplesGirlKeymaster
True RG but I think she’s matured past that kind of child-like behavior. I would be very sad and disappointed in her character if she reverted back-then again, we’ve also seen that true loves don’t handle loss well.
Well I hope so too. But I think it’s telling that Regina’s first instinct when she realized what Emma had done was to blame her in the exact manner that she blamed Snow, all those years ago. Now, maybe she just needs time to cool off and think but her first reaction was “this is happening all over again.”
And personally, I don’t think Regina will go all Evil Queen again….because she has Henry, and she knows it would disappoint him. However, that doesn’t mean Emma is free from the Mayor Mills lashings, sassiness…it’d basically be S1 Regina and Emma without the whole killing/getting rid of you plot. Least for the first half, and I truly hope that Emma is able to right her wrong. And I think Regina will go a tad easier on Emma, but harder at the same time. Easy because unlike Snow White, Robin wasn’t killed like Daniel was, and harder because unlike 10 year old Snow White, Emma is 30 years old, and was warned to not touch anything in the past by Rumple.
If anything is going to anchor Regina, it’s Henry, I agree.
Alright. Here’s a topic with Regina. Does her happy ending HAVE to include a love interest? Now, granted, the same could be said for Emma but since this is Regina’s thread and her love life is the one in question at present in the show…if Robin DOES choose to stick with Marian and Roland, is that a *bad* thing? I do think Regina deserves loves and happiness but there is something to be said about having the opportunity for it in the past, walking away from it (out of fear) and the consequences of that choice is not having Robin at all. So, while I do want Regina to have love, would Henry be enough?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 17, 2014 at 12:53 pm #274181WickedRegalParticipantIf anything is going to anchor Regina, it’s Henry, I agree. Alright. Here’s a topic with Regina. Does her happy ending HAVE to include a love interest? Now, granted, the same could be said for Emma but since this is Regina’s thread and her love life is the one in question at present in the show…if Robin DOES choose to stick with Marian and Roland, is that a *bad* thing? I do think Regina deserves loves and happiness but there is something to be said about having the opportunity for it in the past, walking away from it (out of fear) and the consequences of that choice is not having Robin at all. So, while I do want Regina to have love, would Henry be enough?
Taking off my Outlaw Queen glasses, I’m going to be completely honest.
I don’t want Regina to be Robin’s second best choice if Marian dies/doesn’t work out. I would just find that utterly disrespectful if he went to Regina for that reason, after probably tossing her aside for Marian. So if that’s the case, I’d rather Henry just be enough than Regina be under the Second Place category. It’s either First Place or nothing at all.
Alright, now that that is said, I’m putting back on my Outlaw Queen glasses. 😛
Because in the end…Robin and Regina are soulmates, and I just don’t think after experiencing that type of affection and love, he would never be able to feel that sort of love for Marian as he does for Regina.
However…there are some Oncers who think Regina may just leave SB, don’t see that happening because of Henry, but it would be an interesting story arc.
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June 17, 2014 at 1:42 pm #274190obisgirlParticipantHere’s a topic with Regina. Does her happy ending HAVE to include a love interest? Now, granted, the same could be said for Emma but since this is Regina’s thread and her love life is the one in question at present in the show…if Robin DOES choose to stick with Marian and Roland, is that a *bad* thing? I do think Regina deserves loves and happiness but there is something to be said about having the opportunity for it in the past, walking away from it (out of fear) and the consequences of that choice is not having Robin at all. So, while I do want Regina to have love, would Henry be enough?
Yes. Henry was never really affected by the curse. He’s still growing up and it’s like what Lana or Jennifer said in an interview, that Henry is still growing up and he’s going to find his own happiness and true love. And Regina will be alone. Also, I think since Cora deprived her of a romantic true love when she was younger, that she needs a second chance for a romantic true love.
June 17, 2014 at 1:53 pm #274194RumplesGirlKeymasterBecause in the end…Robin and Regina are soulmates, and I just don’t think after experiencing that type of affection and love, he would never be able to feel that sort of love for Marian as he does for Regina.
And this really difficult for me to understand, if I’m going to be honest. Does he care for Regina? Yes of course. But they’ve only just begun a relationship. And it was very fast, at that. It’s in the heady cant-keep-our-hands-off-one-another phase right now. But Marian…Mairan, he loved. Marian he broke into Rumple’s castle for. Marian, he stole for. Marian, he took away from a dangerous situation with the Sheriff. Marian, he had a child with. Marian, he openly admitted he would do anything to have back.
I don’t deny that he has feelings/an attraction for Regina. But I find incredibly hard to believe that they trump the love and devotion he had to his wife/mother of his child , after only a week at most.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 17, 2014 at 1:54 pm #274195Jenna_BParticipantMy only real issue with Regina is her ‘consequences’ line she likes to use to blame others for her misfortune. You do not run around acting like a psychopath and hunt down a woman for an error she made as a child. You can argue she was manipulated all you want but at some point you have to question your own moral center.
Regarding Emma’s consequences…she saved an innocent human being. T hat isn’t a mistake in judgment on Emma’s part to me. In my opinion the concept that Marian was never going to die because Emma saved her time travel loop holds no water. Whether or not Marian actually died is not the issue – Evil Queen’s intent to kill her remains.
I think what is of most importance is why Robin thinks he’s responsible for her death. Does he know the EQ intended to kill her or is there a chunk of story we haven’t been told yet? Also of importance,for me, is the last roadblock to Regina truly being redeemed is her blame she casts on others. Once she takes ownership of her mistakes ‘I’ll be content in believing she’s truly redeemed.
June 17, 2014 at 1:58 pm #274197PriceofMagicParticipantI think Regina needs to give Robin the space to work things out with Marian if OQ is going to stand any chance of survival.
I think Robin WILL go back to Marian, because she is his wife and son’s mother, so it would be the “honourable” thing to do. However, I think Robin will realise that after 30 years, what he and Marian had isn’t the same anymore and it would be unfair to both him and Marian to be stuck in a marriage that, whilst not exactly loveless, isn’t fulfilling for either of them. It would also be unfair to Roland to have to grow up with his parents marriage being in such a state that neither parent is happy.
Robin would probably explain to Marian how he has moved on with Regina and Marian will tell him about how Regina was the one who was going to execute her. This will put Robin in turmoil and he will seek out Regina to discuss it and eventually they’ll overcome it.
However, if Regina is constantly in Marian’s and Robin’s faces, I could see Marian immediately blurting out Regina’s role in her death and Robin would push Regina away as a knee jerk reaction.
I don’t see Marian willingly letting Roland near Regina and may even refuse to let Robin see Roland if he’s going to let Regina near Roland.
The alternative is that Robin is seeing Regina behind Marian’s back, thus making Regina “the other woman”. It would be interesting to see who gets the blame for that once that little affair is found out.
Question: Since Emma saved Marian before her execution, is Marian aware that Regina killed her in the original timeline, or does Marian only know that Regina was going to kill her?
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Keeper of FelixJune 17, 2014 at 2:04 pm #274200PriceofMagicParticipantAlright. Here’s a topic with Regina. Does her happy ending HAVE to include a love interest? Now, granted, the same could be said for Emma but since this is Regina’s thread and her love life is the one in question at present in the show…if Robin DOES choose to stick with Marian and Roland, is that a *bad* thing? I do think Regina deserves loves and happiness but there is something to be said about having the opportunity for it in the past, walking away from it (out of fear) and the consequences of that choice is not having Robin at all. So, while I do want Regina to have love, would Henry be enough?
I think Regina’s happy ending doesn’t necessarily have to include a love interest, however, Regina’s happy ending is to be loved. We’ve seen Regina attempt to “make” people love her, if Regina could have someone to genuinely love her for her then I think she’d be happy, regardless of whether that is Henry, Robin or some other love interest.
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Keeper of FelixJune 17, 2014 at 2:06 pm #274201RumplesGirlKeymasterHowever, I think Robin will realise that after 30 years, what he and Marian had isn’t the same anymore and it would be unfair to both him and Marian to be stuck in a marriage that, whilst not exactly loveless, isn’t fulfilling for either of them. It would also be unfair to Roland to have to grow up with his parents marriage being in such a state that neither parent is happy.
While I can see the show going in that direction there are some nitpicky things
1) 30 years..yes technically, but not really with the narrative of the show. Time was frozen for all of them. So in their minds, for Robin it has only been 3 years and for Marian, the blink of an eye since she was literally transported to a new time.
2) The issue of it not being the same is a fair one, but….Snow and Charming. They had to go through this. Frozen and separated, Charming having another woman, granted under false memories. But yet no one would question if Snow and Charming would be able to work it out. Those feelings don’t vanish. They made fade, but they are there. And I don’t know why it wouldn’t be fulfilling anymore.
Question: Since Emma saved Marian before her execution, is Marian aware that Regina killed her in the original timeline, or does Marian only know that Regina was going to kill her?
I think she just knows the intention, not that actually happened once. Just like Snow and Charming no longer remember the original way they met.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 17, 2014 at 2:13 pm #274203PriceofMagicParticipantI think they would go the “not being the same” route only for the reason that they need to make OQ happen somehow without making Robin look like a douchebag. If Robin was happy with Marian, that kills OQ dead in the water. Since Regina is the regular and Marian isn’t, Regina’s going to win. Or the writers could just clone Robin and Roland so that Regina and Marian get a pair each then everybody’s happy.
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Keeper of FelixJune 17, 2014 at 2:17 pm #274204RumplesGirlKeymasterI think they would go the “not being the same” route only for the reason that they need to make OQ happen somehow without making Robin look like a douchebag. If Robin was happy with Marian, that kills OQ dead in the water. Since Regina is the regular and Marian isn’t, Regina’s going to win. Or the writers could just clone Robin and Roland so that Regina and Marian get a pair each then everybody’s happy.
Oh I know. And Regina has always been A and E favorite, there is no way she’s not going to get a happy ending, complete with Henry and Robin. And I agree that the “not being the same” route is how it will play out. But that doesn’t mean it’s strictly logical or well written or well conceived. In fact it casts a sort of pall around Snowing who had the same thing happen but are still Snowing.
So either Marian dies, but that makes Robin and Regina look almost gleeful that an innocent woman died and now they get to be together. OR Marian and Robin just can’t make it work, without any interference from Regina. And then Marian will quietly vanish off to the Island of Forgotten Toys only to come in quick conversation. IE:
Emma: Where is Roland
Robin: His mother has him today.
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