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“Fly away, moth”. “Her name is Tinkerbell. Give her back her wings”. (Might not have the exact quotes, but…)
[adrotate group="5"]I hated seeing her make progress in season 2, and then have it all ruined when Cora showed up. I was literally like REALLY REGINA when she proposed her plan to Henry to take him back to the EF and enact the fail-safe so everyone would die. I’ve loved her redemption this season though, and how they have managed it while maintaining all her sass. She has had the best lines this season and to see Henry come full circle with her was lovely!
That scene with Henry where she proposes to take him back to Enchanted Forest, along with the giant cupcake scene were not her finest mommy moments. I believe Regina’s love for Henry is as deep as any other mothers love for her son. I’ve always hoped that when all the stories have played out Henry would choose to come back to live with her. I believe they genuinely love each other. I hope that one day, when True Love’s Kiss is needed again, it will be Henry kissing his mother, Regina.
If Rumple is dead, I think it’s safe to say that Regina, also a villain, will never see her happy ending. But, if Rumple is alive, (in whatever state he’s in) I can’t wait to see where Regina’s journey to happiness takes her.
Ah, but Rumple LIVES! I think the question for both of them though is when does one officially lose the brand of “villain”? They both made a massive, personal sacrifice in 311, and that doesn’t erase all the villainous things they’ve done, but it is a huge step towards personal redemption, in accepting responsibility and a punishment for what they did.
I was super frustrated with Regina in the back half of S2. I get why she succumbed to working with Cora, but good God did I wanna reach into the screen and shake her, because she backslid so completely and so quickly.
During the NL part of the show, when Emma would talk about how crap her life had been, there were reaction shots from Regina, showing that it was registering with her that Emma’s life was crap in no small part because she’d been tasked with being the Saviour for the Curse that she herself had cast.
I think that built up at just the right pace, so that by the time we got to 311, and she knew what her price was gonna be, she properly understood and accepted the what and why of it all. She’d always wanted to screw up Snow’s life, and in doing so she screwed up Snow’s daughter’s life, and brought this turmoil into her own son’s life, and now her son and Snow’s daughter are left with just each other. But Regina’s actually at a place now where she could be accepting of that, and even help them on their way with the new, happy memories.
The ReverseCurse might have been Regina’s price, but many others, (anyone who knew Emma and Henry) are paying a cost as well now. I think (hope) that the fact she accepted responsibility will mean that the others won’t vilify her all over again. Back in the day, Regina was so far above everyone else, looking down on them and wanting to make them suffer. Now she’s been knocked down to their level, and she’s suffering right along with them, which I would imagine would bond them all closer together.
I don’t expect that she’ll ever be as she was at the time of Stable Boy again. She’s been the EQ for too long, the power and the strong attitude is ingrained in who she is now. But she can turn those traits around and start using them for good, instead of evil, even if she doesn’t always use purely good measures. We saw some of it in NL when she still did things that no one else could or would, but in the name of a noble cause. She’s gotta find the balance between who she is, and who she wants to be.
I think she’s positioned well for getting involved with Robin now, (though I hope they don’t fall in love too quickly), because he can be a piece of the puzzle she’s trying to figure out for her future. Meeting someone who will love her, and admitting that she wants to give in to that, is the next step in her emotional journey.
When does one officially lose the brand of villain could also be applied to Hook. Regina and Rumple’s redemption really won’t be complete until that redemption has been tested by new challengers which I suspect we’ll see in 3B. They have each left many victims in their wake with whom they will need to make amends. We’ve seen some glimpses of people wanting to trust Regina, but not fully knowing if they should. I think it will be a while before anyone truly 100% trusts her. The title Evil Queen won’t go away any time soon whether it fits or not.
We saw some of it in NL when she still did things that no one else could or would, but in the name of a noble cause. She’s gotta find the balance between who she is, and who she wants to be.
Yes. And I think for her to really complete her journey down redemption road, she has to have remorse and demonstrate it about everything she’s done
When does one officially lose the brand of villain could also be applied to Hook. Regina and Rumple’s redemption really won’t be complete until that redemption has been tested by new challengers which I suspect we’ll see in 3B. They have each left many victims in their wake with whom they will need to make amends. We’ve seen some glimpses of people wanting to trust Regina, but not fully knowing if they should. I think it will be a while before anyone truly 100% trusts her. The title Evil Queen won’t go away any time soon whether it fits or not.
I think loosing the name “villain” happens when you’ve made a very great sacrifice for unselfish reasons. Hook did move down Redemption Road a little bit in 311 by trying to fight the shadow but I think him watching Rumple die (a man he only sees as his mortal enemy) and then seeing Regina give up Henry, is going to really push Hook to do something”heroic”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I don’t know. I think Hook did get his happy ending, or at least what he would consider to be his happy ending. all he ever wanted for more years than he could count is to find a way to kill Rumpel. so Hook is the only one who actually did get a happy ending. It would be interesting to see how they will play this out, with Hook. now that he finally saw his revenge, how does he feel now.
I don’t know. I think Hook did get his happy ending, or at least what he would consider to be his happy ending. all he ever wanted for more years than he could count is to find a way to kill Rumpel. so Hook is the only one who actually did get a happy ending. It would be interesting to see how they will play this out, with Hook. now that he finally saw his revenge, how does he feel now.
Ah, but happy endings aren’t always what we expect them to be. Sometimes our happy endings can be much happier than we can ever imagine. Perhaps this wasn’t Hook’s happy ending after all.
marty mcfly wrote: I don’t know. I think Hook did get his happy ending, or at least what he would consider to be his happy ending. all he ever wanted for more years than he could count is to find a way to kill Rumpel. so Hook is the only one who actually did get a happy ending. It would be interesting to see how they will play this out, with Hook. now that he finally saw his revenge, how does he feel now.
Ah, but happy endings aren’t always what we expect them to be. Sometimes our happy endings can be much happier than we can ever imagine. Perhaps this wasn’t Hook’s happy ending after all.
I agree. I think that while once not so long ago Hook would have been glad to see Rumple die, the way in which Rumple dies (through sacrifice) is a light bulb moment for Hook: maybe this man isn’t pure evil. And if Rumple can be brave and honorable then maybe so can I.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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