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I don’t think Regina would have left SB to have some random one night stand just to have a child, she did like to sleep around, but the world outside of SB was a big unknown for her, and prob took her a while to realize she could cross the line and come back, that knowledge was not just automatically there, she had to figure out lots of things about what the curse actually did. Her not getting pregnant in SB I can understand, but FTL is different, so I think it’s highly possible that Cora made her infertile, or she was just naturally infertile. Which would make her feel even more out of place with Leopold, just one more thing she couldn’t give him, making her feel useless and not wanted.
But! I do think it would be an awesome twist if we find out she did indeed have a child with Leopold, and she thought it died. But really Rumple took it and stashed it away someplace.. Would be really cool if it turned out to be Peter Pan, but this I know is a BIG LONGSHOT!!
[adrotate group="5"]I don’t think it’s an accident that she’s infertile, which I think she is. I definitely think Cora might have had something to do with that. Not sure how she did it, from Wonderland – maybe Jefferson was involved somehow. Her expression of sadness when Owen asked her why she wasn’t a mom was very telling. It wasn’t matter of fact, it was a walls down glimpse into her soul.
I agree.. If that’s the case that she is infertile it was def not an accident! So happy to know that someone else noticed that with Owen, I thought I was the only one that saw it, and thought I was reading too much into it. But I felt like that statement meant more that just it is what it is kinda statement. That it hurt her to think that she either was pregnant and lost it or she knew she couldn’t have a baby of her own. To me that was what I saw was hurt in her reaction.
You know, I just don’t think she slept with Leopold. She was 18, and he was 60…huge age difference. With Graham well, I’m not too sure, maybe infertile. I think it will be addressed in later eps, or season 3.
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I don’t think Cora would have made Regina infertile. If anything, had Regina had Leopold’s child, especially if it was a son, it would have secured Regina’s place as queen and meant that her child was an heir to Leopold’s kingdom. If it was a boy, it would have skipped ahead of Snow and been next in line for the throne. Cora would have loved that.
I don’t think Regina and Leopold did sleep in the same bed. Regina had her own separate chambers and Leopold locked her in there when he thought she was having an affair. It is possible that Leopold and Regina may have slept together once on their wedding night in order to consummate the marriage but there is no guarantee Regina would have gotten pregnant from that. Leopold still loved Eva and was only looking for a mother for Snow. Except for the marriage consummation, I doubt Leopold touched Regina in that way.
As for Regina not being pregnant in Storybrooke, the time loop may be a part of it, but could it also be the fact that Regina never wanted to be pregnant, she just wanted the end result of a child. Considering the evil queen’s main trait in the original Snow White tale was her vanity, it makes sense that Regina wouldn’t want to go through all the morning sickness, bloating and increasing in size that pregnancy entails. Adoption was ideal for her.
As for her comment to Owen, children are often seen as a sign of love between a couple. Daniel was killed before Regina and him could get down to it, so it’s possible that had Daniel lived, he and Regina may have had several children together. Regina and Leopold was a loveless marriage, he probably didn’t touch her beyond the initial marriage consummation. Regina was there for show and to be a mother to Snow. Nothing more. Regina was aware that Graham didn’t really love her, so she probably didn’t want to bring a child up in a loveless relationship which is essentially what Cora did with her and the last thing Regina wanted was to turn into her mother.
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Keeper of FelixPriceofmagic, all very good points to think on.. Although, I personally think that Regina and Leopold did sleep together throughout their marriage, only bc this adds more to the hurt for Regina, and bc they made it such a point that yes he wanted a mother for snow, but also said that the king was a lonely man, I don’t think that meant he was wanting someone to share his problems with, he wanted a companion, to me this symbolized a sexual companion, not a friend. Again could be something that I read all wrong and could simply just mean someone for him to spend the rest of his days with, and just a mother for Snow, nothing more.
All very good points made, but I still have a feeling that they have left a doorway open for this subject to be brought up at some point, maybe not this season but next. If brought up this season, it will def be in “The Evil Queen” episode coming up. I’m very intrigued into what this episode is going to reveal.
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Priceofmagic, all very good points to think on.. Although, I personally think that Regina and Leopold did sleep together throughout their marriage, only bc this adds more to the hurt for Regina, and bc they made it such a point that yes he wanted a mother for snow, but also said that the king was a lonely man, I don’t think that meant he was wanting someone to share his problems with, he wanted a companion, to me this symbolized a sexual companion, not a friend. Again could be something that I read all wrong and could simply just mean someone for him to spend the rest of his days with, and just a mother for Snow, nothing more.
I think it would be more hurtful for Regina if they didn’t sleep together. Regina was trapped in a loveless marriage. Sex was seen as a sign of love. Leopold didn’t want Regina as a wife, he wanted her as a mother for Snow. Regina wouldn’t have been allowed to have other men and yet Leopold didn’t want her. She didn’t feel loved and Leopold would always mention how he loved Snow’s mother.
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Keeper of FelixI think it would be more hurtful for Regina if they didn’t sleep together. Regina was trapped in a loveless marriage. Sex was seen as a sign of love. Leopold didn’t want Regina as a wife, he wanted her as a mother for Snow. Regina wouldn’t have been allowed to have other men and yet Leopold didn’t want her. She didn’t feel loved and Leopold would always mention how he loved Snow’s mother.[/quote]
True she didn’t feel loved, but that did not mean that they did not sleep together. Regina proved that sex could be done without love, Graham, maybe that was why she did it with Graham, because all she had ever known was loveless sex. I mean it is entirely possible that they never slept together, but I just don’t think so. Regina was a beautiful woman, and they were married, so it would have been expected. Sex in those times was seen as a way to reproduce, not for a love connection. This is just in my opinion anyway, I think mostly because I do love the idea of Regina having the chance to have a child that was truly hers’.
I’ve never thought Regina and Leopold ever shared a bed. He wasn’t interested in her that way, and he wasn’t the type of man who would make his wife sleep with him out of duty, though they had no romantic interest in each other. He had no desire to have more children. He cherished Snow so much because she was a result of the love he shared with Eva. A child with Regina would not have fulfilled him in the same way, so I doubt he was at all interested in making babies with her.
As for the question of Regina potentially being infertile, I could see Cora doing that, so that her daughter was never distracted by developing love for anyone.
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I’ve never thought Regina and Leopold ever shared a bed. He wasn’t interested in her that way, and he wasn’t the type of man who would make his wife sleep with him out of duty, though they had no romantic interest in each other. He had no desire to have more children. He cherished Snow so much because she was a result of the love he shared with Eva. A child with Regina would not have fulfilled him in the same way, so I doubt he was at all interested in making babies with her.
As for the question of Regina potentially being infertile, I could see Cora doing that, so that her daughter was never distracted by developing love for anyone.
I completely agree. I don’t think that Leopold and Regina ever slept together for all the reasons stated above.
If Regina was not infertile, then it would only leave the time after Leopold was killed to the time the curse was enacted that Regina had to have some method of birth control. By that time she was quite well versed in magic and maybe she kept herself from getting pregnant. That doesn’t mean she didn’t think about having a child every once in a while. But I don’t think she really considered it until she came to Storybrooke. She had so much other stuff going on in her life that having a child during all the fighting with the Charmings and such probably wouldn’t have been the best timing (could you imagine a pregnant Regina riding around). After Owen left is probably when she really starting thinking about having a child. She had all the time in the world so who knows how long it was before she really started trying and then how long it took her to discover that the frozen time thing wouldn’t allow her to get pregnant.
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