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It’s interesting to hear everyone’s opinions. It never entered my mind that Regina and Leopold didn’t sleep together. Royalty, the aristocracy, and other well-to-do couples have a history of separate bedrooms. I saw nothing off about that. Marital relations was a duty that a wife was supposed to perform. Maybe not regularly, but I never imagined Leopold didn’t visit Regina sometimes.
All the signs point to her being barren. She was married for a number of years in a time when birth control wasn’t probably used, and she was royalty and probably expected to bear a child. Also, like has been mentioned above, although she couldn’t get pregnant because of the curse and time standing still in Storybrooke, when Emma decided to stay time started moving. So there is a possibility of women getting pregnant because time was moving. Yet Regina didn’t, whether the result of birth control or her infertility.
She also has a history of being obsessed with children. She wanted Hansel and Gretel to stay with her and when they wouldn’t she banished their father to the unending forest. She tried to take Owen and when he didn’t want her she kidnapped his dad. That’s not a good pattern. You want what you can’t have. If she’s unable to bear children, she’s probably obsessed with it. The fact that Snow and Charming were able to conceive so quickly was probably just another twist of the knife from her perspective.
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@Josephine wrote:
It’s interesting to hear everyone’s opinions. It never entered my mind that Regina and Leopold didn’t sleep together. Royalty, the aristocracy, and other well-to-do couples have a history of separate bedrooms. I saw nothing off about that. Marital relations was a duty that a wife was supposed to perform. Maybe not regularly, but I never imagined Leopold didn’t visit Regina sometimes.
All the signs point to her being barren. She was married for a number of years in a time when birth control wasn’t probably used, and she was royalty and probably expected to bear a child. Also, like has been mentioned above, although she couldn’t get pregnant because of the curse and time standing still in Storybrooke, when Emma decided to stay time started moving. So there is a possibility of women getting pregnant because time was moving. Yet Regina didn’t, whether the result of birth control or her infertility.
She also has a history of being obsessed with children. She wanted Hansel and Gretel to stay with her and when they wouldn’t she banished their father to the unending forest. She tried to take Owen and when he didn’t want her she kidnapped his dad. That’s not a good pattern. You want what you can’t have. If she’s unable to bear children, she’s probably obsessed with it. The fact that Snow and Charming were able to conceive so quickly was probably just another twist of the knife from her perspective.
Agreed on all points… I firmly believe that she and Leopold had a “normal” marriage. She would have been expected to sleep with him at some point. As far as her being barren, that is something I have thought for a while, but the original suggestion was that she did have a child at some point, and it either died or Rumple took it and told her it died. Would think it very interesting if that was the case and the child turned out to be Peter Pan, or another child in SB that we haven’t seen yet. Also had the thought that it would be cool if the child turned out to be Grace. This is a big stretch, as all of this is, but would be interesting to see played out. In my opinion anyway. Would make for a BIG twist and big reveal.
All in all I think her obsession with children does mean something, and I think it will be revealed at some point.
@EvilRegal084 wrote:
@Josephine wrote:
It’s interesting to hear everyone’s opinions. It never entered my mind that Regina and Leopold didn’t sleep together. Royalty, the aristocracy, and other well-to-do couples have a history of separate bedrooms. I saw nothing off about that. Marital relations was a duty that a wife was supposed to perform. Maybe not regularly, but I never imagined Leopold didn’t visit Regina sometimes.
All the signs point to her being barren. She was married for a number of years in a time when birth control wasn’t probably used, and she was royalty and probably expected to bear a child. Also, like has been mentioned above, although she couldn’t get pregnant because of the curse and time standing still in Storybrooke, when Emma decided to stay time started moving. So there is a possibility of women getting pregnant because time was moving. Yet Regina didn’t, whether the result of birth control or her infertility.
She also has a history of being obsessed with children. She wanted Hansel and Gretel to stay with her and when they wouldn’t she banished their father to the unending forest. She tried to take Owen and when he didn’t want her she kidnapped his dad. That’s not a good pattern. You want what you can’t have. If she’s unable to bear children, she’s probably obsessed with it. The fact that Snow and Charming were able to conceive so quickly was probably just another twist of the knife from her perspective.
Agreed on all points… I firmly believe that she and Leopold had a “normal” marriage. She would have been expected to sleep with him at some point. As far as her being barren, that is something I have thought for a while, but the original suggestion was that she did have a child at some point, and it either died or Rumple took it and told her it died. Would think it very interesting if that was the case and the child turned out to be Peter Pan, or another child in SB that we haven’t seen yet. Also had the thought that it would be cool if the child turned out to be Grace. This is a big stretch, as all of this is, but would be interesting to see played out. In my opinion anyway. Would make for a BIG twist and big reveal.
All in all I think her obsession with children does mean something, and I think it will be revealed at some point.
She is obsessed with being loved and children are move capable of love is why she wanted a child. She never wants to be in love again because of Daniel but she still wants someone to love her aka Henry. I think if she did have her own child she would have hinted at it or Snow would have cause it would have been her brother/sister and I am pretty sure she hints that red is the closest thing to family she has. I couldn’t see her turning her back on a sibling no matter what. And if Rumple would have taken the child there is no way she wouldn’t be trying to get we kid back instead of just getting Henry back.
@Josephine wrote:
It’s interesting to hear everyone’s opinions. It never entered my mind that Regina and Leopold didn’t sleep together. Royalty, the aristocracy, and other well-to-do couples have a history of separate bedrooms. I saw nothing off about that. Marital relations was a duty that a wife was supposed to perform. Maybe not regularly, but I never imagined Leopold didn’t visit Regina sometimes.
I disagree. Leopold was still in love with Eva. He married Regina, not because he wanted a wife, but because he wanted a mother for Snow. I think Regina and Leopold did sleep together on their wedding night in order to consummate the marriage but other than that Regina was left alone. Regina felt unloved. She blamed Snow for taking away the one person who did love her- Daniel.
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Keeper of FelixI don’t believe she’s barren, I mean it would make a logical excuse as to why she wants children so bad, but come on, surely the writers wouldn’t stoop to make her life hellish enough as it is, I mean she’s the last Mills. Henry has her last name, but he’s acting like a brat for now, and I personally feel Regina should have at least one biological, perhaps it was taken from her by Cora or more thank likely, our dear lovable Rumpelstilskin. Or the shocker King Leo?
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I don’t think Regina is barren and I don’t think Regina ever had a child before Henry.
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Keeper of Felix@WickedRegal wrote:
I personally feel Regina should have at least one biological,
Why? The show is getting enough flack as it is over not portraying the bonds of adoption as every bit as real and strong as biological ties. I believe the showrunners did not consciously choose to write scenes with an agenda of being anti-adoption, but they did make some choices that could imply otherwise. Making a big deal of a biological child for Regina would not help.
If you’re curious about the choices:
- They chose to have the evil queen adopt rather than the heroine princess. When Regina says genetics mean nothing, we’re supposed to be sympathizing with Emma.
They chose that neither Emma or August were adopted by someone loving (at least that we knew).
They chose to have Zoso question whether Bae was biologically Rumpel’s and to say it would be ironic if he were not Rumpel’s biological son, with Rumpel’s response being to stab Zoso in anger. They could have had Rumpel say something like “I don’t care, he will ALWAYS be my boy, ” then kill Zoso.
They had Neal saying Rumpel is still his blood, rather than father who raised him.
Cora never expressed love for Henry. Granted, she did not have a heart and we were meant to assume that she was only after the dagger. When she had her heart back for example, they did not give her a line to express regret she never got to even meet Henry.
Pinocchio is sort of the counter example I guess, but even there Gepetto sort of made him.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I am not sure if Leopold was even sleeping with Regina. I know we would assume so, but she forgot she was the Queen when she was talking to Jefferson in Rumpel’s castle.
I think Regina and Leopold only slept together on their wedding night as a matter of formality. Leopold wanted Regina as a mother for Snow rather than a wife.
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Keeper of Felix@Jbwood5 wrote:
She is obsessed with being loved and children are move capable of love is why she wanted a child. She never wants to be in love again because of Daniel but she still wants someone to love her aka Henry.
As much as the theories about Regina being barren are interesting, I think this is more likely. She wants to be loved. She wants Henry to love her. She wanted Owen to love her. Children are more open about loving people than adults.
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