Regina’s death?

[Ziera]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to say this, and perhaps have a small debate with the opposing.

I really do think Regina will have to die.

One way-
Emma and Henry- thats what all of us want, and in order for Once upon a time to have a happy ending- almost the only way to end it will be Henry with Emma. There isn’t any room for regina-thats why I’ve never been to keen on her redemption. there isn’t a way she could just fit in. What she wants would take Emma out of the picture…so, I do think she will have to die. But she could die redeemed, that is still possible.

Or- she could start her fight against Emma for Henry- or maybe accept that she can never have him. When that happens-maybe she will give up hope and help her mother and be evil.

What are thoughts? I know this is a really popular prediction already-I just know people who don’t think she will die…and yeah 😀

[evilqueen]

I think so far she will have other things on her mind – i.e. Cora and Hook. She will have to unite with Emma and the Charmings to protect Henry.
To be honest, I don’t think Regina is going to die any time soon – she is too significant piece to the whole game and, frankly, if she dies, the show will not only lose many viewers but also will lose many interesting twists to all of the stories.
How are the writer going to overcome the problem of Henry? [well, there is one possible solution – Swan Queen 😈 ] I think the simplest path to take is to engage Regina otherwise – like with Cora’s appearance. I’m sure there will be lots more on Regina’s mind before she would fully be able to start anything on Henry’s case. In the meantime she will be trying to reunite with him, of course, but she will have to be rewarded for this – if Henry doesn’t give a cr** about it, then, naturally, she will eventually give up and turn back to the dark site. And while there is a chance she will die much later on as the series develops, I think we’re safe so far. She’s the one who created the curse and all the problems – so she’s the one who created Once Upon a Time. There is way too many interesting ways to explore that!

[PriceofMagic]

It was Rumple who created the curse, he manipulated Regina to cast it. I’m surprised Regina hasn’t pointed that fact out yet instead of taking the blame.

As for Regina dying, I hope not. Her first attempt at redemption is going to fail. She’s doing it for the wrong reasons, for Henry instead of for herself. She thinks redeeming herself is her best chance at getting back Henry, and she’s right to an extent, but she’s not redeeming herself because she wants to redeem herself. She feels no remorse for her past actions. If she could get away with killing Snow and have Henry love her, she would probably do it. We’ve not seen the last of the Evil Queen in Storybrooke.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[maryrose d.]

I think Regina will face her death in the series, but I think it is going to be in her trying to redeem herself, or by some other means. I am almost possitive that the Charmings will have no direct link to her death, except maybe by her dying to protect/ save them.

Keeper of Swanfire's dream catcher, the Blue Fairy Plot Device, the contact name "Her", the lanyards, the trigger, the Netherworld room and necklace, Charming's quote on Thanksgiving, and PP's pic of Henry

[TheGoldenKey]

I doubt very much that Reggie will ever die. If she did, it would be at the end of the series and it would be to save others.

I firmly believe she will be redeemed. Yes, she might be doing it right now for Henry, but that means she is doing it for LOVE and not necessarily selfish reasons. The more she gets brought into the fold, the more she will realize errors of her ways and then, bit by bit, she will begin to feel true remorse. It’s a gradual process for someone who has been on the wrong side of things for so long. Never an overnight transformation.

That’s my hope anyway.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[Ziera]

I definitely don’t think that Regina will die anytime soon….I’m just saying for future times, like, end. I will reply more haha, but pressed for time at the moment, lol…

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[evilqueen]

TheGoldenKey, as much I would like it, I don’t think Regina will redeem herself any time soon. She’s trying to, but she’s doing it for all the wrong reasons – to get Henry back on her side. Hence it is still selfish and she’s not even remotely sorry for all her wrongdoings. Especially now, when she's going to be blamed for Archie's death, she might decide this is enough and that she much more prefers the times when she was in control, no matter what.
I also believe that Cora will do everything she can (and as we know, she really can do a lot!) to make sure her daughter really needs her, never mind the means. Regina right now is left very vulnerable indeed and she’s also lured into the belief that she’s temporarily safe from Cora. So the shock of actually seeing her might act against her. Not to mention that for all those years she believed her mother was dead and we haven’t seen yet her dealing with this – is she scared just for Henry or also for herself? Does she unconsciously hope for her mother’s help? (one of the reasons she might have wanted her mother dead in the first place – not to follow her influence and temptations)
We haven’t seen any of her [live] interactions with her mother since she pushed her through the looking glass so there are even more questions – has she spoken to her since? Can she stand up for herself or will she still be this defenseless girl in front of her mother? I know that Regina has now a lot more experience and power but this is her mother we’re talking about and we all know how hard it actually is to stand up to our own parents, especially when they are so psychotic and tyrant like this!
I actually think that Regina’s 28 years in Storybrooke and 10 years of living with Henry brought to her a lot of the experience that would help her not only understand Cora but give her strength to deal with her issues. I’m sure she’s also learned a lot of the feelings that Cora, no matter how great queen of hearts, has never experienced (or doesn’t remember any more), even small gestures like Snow White actually recognising that it’s the enormous loneliness that drives Regina into her evil actions (she told her that in Storybrooke as MM so even before she regained her memories ); Henry asking Emma to protect Regina because she’s still his mother; Emma inviting her to the dinner.
All that is pretty new to her and I’m sure difficult to comprehend but she’s actually experienced that whereas Cora probably hasn’t so hopefully it will help Regina in her final struggles.
BUT she is still vulnerable, like Cora predicted and she could do with someone’s support. Cora knows Regina as a daughter she’s had for 18 (or 19?) years so I’m sure she can still play some sneaky cards on her. She is so calm and confident, she can easily play behind a mask. That combined with mixed feelings and shock is a really powerful weapon and I’m sorry but Regina just doesn’t stand a chance.
Seeing that Henry is head over heels for his ‘new’ mother, I can only imagine Regina turning back to the dark side and becoming the Evil Queen again. It’s so much easier.
She is just this character literally taken right from the Greek tragedy that doesn’t have any happiness or control over her life. She really hasn’t had anyone to show her the right way (Henry the father just kept saying “everything’s going to be ok, you are imagining things” and Henry the son is just using her to help ‘the right mom’). With Emma attempting to change this, I really hope she will EVENTUALLY somehow redeem herself but right now it’s not remotely possible – not with Henry turning away from her, Cora on her back and pretty much everyone else in Storybrooke holding a grudge against her.

[ladymoiraine]

@EvilQueen wrote:

TheGoldenKey, as much I would like it, I don’t think Regina will redeem herself any time soon. She’s trying to, but she’s doing it for all the wrong reasons – to get Henry back on her side.

I don’t agree totally about that, she tries to redeem herself for henry but also because Rumpel told her that now she really looks like her mother and she didn’t like it at all. Furthermore we don’t know what she really think, we are not in her mind. But what we can see is that she has a lot of doubts and at first when rumpel wanted to close the portal she didn’t want because of snow and Emma.
And we don’t know if Henry will be only into Emma perhaps Emma will offer a shared custody (Emma being the savior, she must save also Regina). Nothing is written and I agree that she is very vulnerable but I think Emmma and Archie can help her. If she is not alone, things should get better. As for being accused of Archie’s murder at first of course it will be difficult but at the end discovering she is innocent could strengthen the bond with her and emma and Archie.

[TheGoldenKey]

Well, I’m going to have to rethink this. As much as I want to see Reggie redeemed, I read the spoiler below that Nonnie provided and it seems she will revert back over to the dark side. Archie was targeted by Cora because he was helpful Reggie turn over a new leaf. Without Archie, maybe she'll be lost which is exactly what Mommy Dearest wants for her daughter.Shame, I was so looking forward to the change.

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[nonnie]

@EvilQueen wrote:

TheGoldenKey, as much I would like it, I don’t think Regina will redeem herself any time soon. She’s trying to, but she’s doing it for all the wrong reasons – to get Henry back on her side. Hence it is still selfish and she’s not even remotely sorry for all her wrongdoings. Especially now, when she's going to be blamed for Archie's death, she might decide this is enough and that she much more prefers the times when she was in control, no matter what.
I also believe that Cora will do everything she can (and as we know, she really can do a lot!) to make sure her daughter really needs her, never mind the means. Regina right now is left very vulnerable indeed and she’s also lured into the belief that she’s temporarily safe from Cora. So the shock of actually seeing her might act against her. Not to mention that for all those years she believed her mother was dead and we haven’t seen yet her dealing with this – is she scared just for Henry or also for herself? Does she unconsciously hope for her mother’s help? (one of the reasons she might have wanted her mother dead in the first place – not to follow her influence and temptations)
We haven’t seen any of her [live] interactions with her mother since she pushed her through the looking glass so there are even more questions – has she spoken to her since? Can she stand up for herself or will she still be this defenseless girl in front of her mother? I know that Regina has now a lot more experience and power but this is her mother we’re talking about and we all know how hard it actually is to stand up to our own parents, especially when they are so psychotic and tyrant like this!
I actually think that Regina’s 28 years in Storybrooke and 10 years of living with Henry brought to her a lot of the experience that would help her not only understand Cora but give her strength to deal with her issues. I’m sure she’s also learned a lot of the feelings that Cora, no matter how great queen of hearts, has never experienced (or doesn’t remember any more), even small gestures like Snow White actually recognising that it’s the enormous loneliness that drives Regina into her evil actions (she told her that in Storybrooke as MM so even before she regained her memories ); Henry asking Emma to protect Regina because she’s still his mother; Emma inviting her to the dinner.
All that is pretty new to her and I’m sure difficult to comprehend but she’s actually experienced that whereas Cora probably hasn’t so hopefully it will help Regina in her final struggles.
BUT she is still vulnerable, like Cora predicted and she could do with someone’s support. Cora knows Regina as a daughter she’s had for 18 (or 19?) years so I’m sure she can still play some sneaky cards on her. She is so calm and confident, she can easily play behind a mask. That combined with mixed feelings and shock is a really powerful weapon and I’m sorry but Regina just doesn’t stand a chance.
Seeing that Henry is head over heels for his ‘new’ mother, I can only imagine Regina turning back to the dark side and becoming the Evil Queen again. It’s so much easier.
She is just this character literally taken right from the Greek tragedy that doesn’t have any happiness or control over her life. She really hasn’t had anyone to show her the right way (Henry the father just kept saying “everything’s going to be ok, you are imagining things” and Henry the son is just using her to help ‘the right mom’). With Emma attempting to change this, I really hope she will EVENTUALLY somehow redeem herself but right now it’s not remotely possible – not with Henry turning away from her, Cora on her back and pretty much everyone else in Storybrooke holding a grudge against her.

I do not think ARCHIE is dead… I think he is in a sleeping curse but needs someone to wake him up…. a lick by PONGO probably will not do.

Nonnie

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