Regina’s past with Jefferson

[obisgirl]

I think I figured it out what it was. I was re-watching some clips between them and I think I know. Regina employed Jefferson to help her escape this realm while she was still married to Snow’s father but for whatever reason, either she betrayed him or had second thoughts and Regina’s original betrayal of Jefferson is what lead him to loose his wife (Grace’s mother).

[Phee]

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Regina was somehow involved in whatever incident caused Jefferson to lose his wife.

Never thought about her trying to escape after being married to Leopold. She was beginning to look intent on revenge even before the wedding, so I figured she’d descend into that as opposed to trying to flee. I do think she sent her mother to live in Wonderland as QoH though, so perhaps Jefferson helped her with that.

[antbee]

@obisgirl wrote:

I think I figured it out what it was. I was re-watching some clips between them and I think I know. Regina employed Jefferson to help her escape this realm while she was still married to Snow’s father but for whatever reason, either she betrayed him or had second thoughts and Regina’s original betrayal of Jefferson is what lead him to loose his wife (Grace’s mother).

I never thought about Regina being involved in the disappearance of Jefferson’s wife, but if Jefferson and Regina aren’t related, I do think there’s chemistry that suggests some kind of formerly very close relationship in “Hat Trick”. Plus, we all know that Regina is extremely jealous, so maybe Jefferson flirted with Regina maybe even done more when they were younger, but Grace’s mom enters the picture or is already in the picture, and he falls for her, leaving Regina wanting to get revenge on her for taking Jefferson away.

Right now there’s no evidence that suggests that she was involved in anyway with Jefferson’s wife disappearing, but I could see it becoming canon on the show once we find out more about Jefferson.

[hjbau]

I don’t think it seems like Jefferson blames Regina for what happened with his wife though. I think he blames himself. Like you said, they still seemed close in Hat Trick.

[Slurpeez]

Perhaps Jefferson is related to Regina, but I don’t think they were ever lovers. They could have been cousins or perhaps even siblings. The way Regina spoke to Jefferson, I think it can at least be assumed that they had worked together in the past. I think Regina said she needed to employ his skills as a magician “one last time.” (I can’t remember for sure, since I haven’t seen 1×17 in a while).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[antbee]

@hjbau wrote:

I don’t think it seems like Jefferson blames Regina for what happened with his wife though. I think he blames himself. Like you said, they still seemed close in Hat Trick.

If Regina is behind his wife’s disappearance, I was going by the assumption that right now Jefferson doesn’t know that Regina had anything to do with it. Of course, Regina’s already done so many other bad things to him that maybe it would be overkill if they also made her the reason for the disappearance of his wife.

[hjbau]

I liked the idea that Jefferson was her brother though now i am not sure. It seems like the producers implied that Regina is the child that was promised to Rumpel by the Miller’s daughter. Hopefully we will get more information about all the Miller’s daughter stuff and Cora in Ep 2. They do need to explain more of Regina and Jefferson’s relationship. I think that one of the only reasons that it makes sense that he wouldn’t kill her is because she is related to him. Though really sicking Rumpel on Regina is just as bad.

[Phee]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

The way Regina spoke to Jefferson, I think it can at least be assumed that they had worked together in the past. I think Regina said she needed to employ his skills as a magician “one last time.” (I can’t remember for sure, since I haven’t seen 1×17 in a while).

“Do this one last favour for me, and you can give her the life she deserves.”
And after they go through the hat:
“I forgot how magnificent you are.”
So he’s certainly done favours for her before that involved the use of his power.

@AntBee wrote:

If Regina is behind his wife’s disappearance, I was going by the assumption that right now Jefferson doesn’t know that Regina had anything to do with it. Of course, Regina’s already done so many other bad things to him that maybe it would be overkill if they also made her the reason for the disappearance of his wife.

Yeah, if she had something to do with it, I doubt he knows the extent of her involvement, even if he may have his suspicions.

[hjbau]

I know what you guys are saying, that Jefferson might just not know what Regina did, but for whatever reason it seems like to me that Regina actually likes Jefferson and respects him in some way. Even though she is angry at him. That could just be though because the actors don’t know what their relationship is.

[Aliasscape]

I’m so skeeved out anytime anyone suggests Jefferson and Regina are related. I felt clear feelings that they’d had a relationship that involved a crush or romance or just friends with benefits type thing going on. The familiarity was that of childhood next door neighbors that had been each other’s first kiss or something. You can know a guy, poke fun at him, or strike up a rivalry without any blood ties. I used to race the next door neighbor kid home from school every day, the fun of one-upping each other was there without any shared DNA.

I also think it doesn’t fit Regina’s back story for her to have any siblings. For example it probably would have been easier for Cora to advance a son into a powerful position and all consuming obsession with one child generally makes more sense if that is your only child. I’ve heard a few only children say the main reason they don’t want their kids to be only children is because there’s too much pressure for an only to fulfill all the parent’s hopes and dreams. And extended family is such an ignored thing in the fairy tale world.

I also don’t think Regina was ever trying to escape Leopold. By the time she married the guy, she was going to use him and his power influence to get what she wanted out of life and get her revenge on Snow White. Being a runaway/shamed/exiled queen was probably never her style. Much better to kill the guy and remain in power.

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