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Of course magic is a drug, it’s the power to do anything you want, for Regina it did give her freedom like her mother said it would, albeit not as her mother intended.
I think Cora is the main evil, I think she’s not really going to “help” I think she wants to piggyback with Emma and Snow so she can get to Storybrooke and get Regina.
I can picture an epic scene maybe the very final episode ever where Cora goes to kill the one thing Regina loves again (Henry this time) and Regina gets in the way and is killed saving her son from Cora proving she truly loves him and while she’s dying telling Henry she loves him and Henry saying for the first time that he loves her too, she smiles finally realising she has true love and is truly loved and then closes her eyes and dies. I just think this because thinking about the final episode, doubt it can end with the charmings and the evil queen all as one happy family. Plus I think they will build it up so we are all truly sad if/when the Evil Queen dies.
Not sure it would happen, I still think the writers missed a great opportunity in the end of Season 1, Regina should have been the one to kiss Henry, not knowing it would be the true loves kiss that breaks her own curse, it would have been so ironic.
[adrotate group="5"]Just because Emma was meant to be the saviour. Doesn’t mean someone else couldn’t have done it, that is what’s known as A TWIST! It would have been a great twist. In Shrek Fiona was supposed to be saved by Prince Charming, instead it was Shrek. She thought taking true loves form would make her human, it made her an Ogre.
I was SUPPOSED to go into work today, I knew I had to and I was supposed to all along, but I didn’t and so someone else had to cover for me.
It would have just been so much better that actually Emma failed to break it, and instead Regina unknowingly did.
It would have also been great as Rumple/Gold could have kept taunting her about how she broke her own curse deary.
It could still happen, not in the same setting, we know that Snow is going to get poisoned/cursed in an upcoming ep. Maybe later in the series, or another series, Henry could be cursed again and Regina kisses him breaking it, and maybe even fully breaks her curse returning them to the Enchanted Forrest.
Would also be controversial and good drama, as it would mean that Regina’s love for Henry was stronger than Emma’s was when she kissed him.
Everything involving Regina was so well written in this ep. Add me to the chorus of people who felt some actual sympathy for her for the first time. I’m actually starting to really want her to be redeemed. Before this ep, I really hadn’t thought she deserved it.
@Phee wrote:
Everything involving Regina was so well written in this ep. Add me to the chorus of people who felt some actual sympathy for her for the first time. I’m actually starting to really want her to be redeemed. Before this ep, I really hadn’t thought she deserved it.
What about The Stable Boy? That was the first time for me. I always liked her as a villain, but The Stable Boy just added so many dimensions to her character. Obviously Snow was deceived and was only a child, but wouldn’t you feel anger towards someone who broke a promise and got the love of your life taken away, your happy ending gone forever. Even if you don’t agree with Regina’s motives at least you have better reasons now of why she hates Snow unlike in the first ep where Snow said it was the traditional reason of “because I’m prettier.”
Regina is actually the victim. I’m not an Evil King, but I associate really strongly with the desire just to be loved so I understand where she’s coming from. She found true love and had her love stolen away by her mother because of Snow’s actions. She managed to escape her mother not long after, but for years the only person she had to vent her rage on was Snow. She was trapped in a castle never allowed to leave, married to a man that didn’t love her, so she killed him so she could be free of him. With that she inherited the Kingdom, but then her people didn’t love her either, hurt and rejected she chose the (wrong) path of trying to force them to like her with her power and so she became EVIL!
Then as we saw in the Hansel and Gretle episode, she tries to get kids, she offers them everything possible, and they still reject her. When she finally manages to adopt a child who she genuinely loves, cares for and protects. He rejects her too, calling her evil, wanting to live with someone else, calling someone else Mum.
She’s had a really raw deal. Plus unless I’m mistaken she wasn’t that bad as Queen, sure she ruled by fear, but Rumple was a lot worse in his town, Regina was never shown killing people just on a whim. The only people we’ve ever seen her killing was an evil witch who ATE children, so actually it was a good thing she killed her, she never explained why she did it, maybe it was to protect the children of her land. And the Sherrif/Hunter, who she killed in a fit of rage after he too, rejected her love and instead seemed to fall in love with her enemies daughter!
@Crest1994 wrote:
What about The Stable Boy? That was the first time for me. I always liked her as a villain, but The Stable Boy just added so many dimensions to her character.
At the end of Stable Boy, I was just left with the feeling of how if that was her motivation for an all consuming lifelong vendetta against Snow, she was being a drama queen, because it wasn’t really Snow’s fault, it was Cora’s, and Regina knew it, but still chose to go after Snow any way. Obviously it was horrible that her mother killed the love of her life in front of her eyes, and I did feel bad for her for that, and it was tragic how that incident started her on her path to evil. But I thought her reaction to Snow was entirely unreasonable, so I didn’t finish the ep hoping for her redemption, I just happily went right on loving to straight up hate her.
I’d been hoping that as we saw more of her backstory that I would start to feel for her, so I’m glad they seem to be on the right track with that. I’m still not exactly an Evil Regal, but she’s growing on me. I don’t just love to hate her now, I’m actually interested in her possibility for redemption all of a sudden.
The only people we’ve ever seen her killing was an evil witch who ATE children, so actually it was a good thing she killed her, she never explained why she did it, maybe it was to protect the children of her land.
Regina mentioned that Hansel and Gretel weren’t the first children she’d sent into that house. Regina is the one who encouraged all those kiddies to go into the house, knowing full well they were likely gonna be cooked and eaten.
Let’s not forget, Regina did go 28 long years without using magic, and during that time she still was manipulative and mean, and to some, truly evil. For her to put down the magic and try to become a better person will take more than just not using magic. She needs a complete personality make-over. How does one atone for the murder of their own father (Henry Sr.), lover – Sheriff Graham, and possible countless others?
@Crest1994 wrote:
Of course magic is a drug, it’s the power to do anything you want, for Regina it did give her freedom like her mother said it would, albeit not as her mother intended.
I think Cora is the main evil, I think she’s not really going to “help” I think she wants to piggyback with Emma and Snow so she can get to Storybrooke and get Regina.
I was thinking that too. Once you do magic, you become addicted to it like drugs.
We don’t know yet if Cora is going to be the main evil. It’ll be interesting if next episode, she’s reformed, or tries to play the reformed witch — which I doubt that she would out and admit that she’s Regina’s mom.
TheGoldenKey wrote: Her book of magic did have a red heart in the centre (confirming that Cora is the QofH?)
slurpeez108 wrote: I think Cora is the QoH. Cora comes from the French word coeur meaning “heart.” Also, she went through the mirror, which is a clear and indisputable reference to the book Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll, part of the Alice in Wonderland saga. Also, right before Regina pushed Cora through the portal, Cora said, “Let everyone know where the new power lies, and you’ll hold the hearts of the people in your hands.” Let’s just say, Cora wasn’t just speaking about proverbial hearts. The QoH had a vault of actual hearts, which we later saw Regina imitating in the Enchanted Forest and SB. We also saw Cora crush Daniel’s heart, the same way Regina crushed Graham’s. 😥
I watched the episode with my boyfriend and he said, maybe the mirror led to Wonderland but I don’t believe she ended up there. That’s too easy to say, Cora goes through a looking glass and she ends up in Wonderland.
It was awesome that Rumpel showed up in the mirror and I swear, it looked like that he was going to grab Cora if Regina wasn’t going to push her in.
@Mike wrote:
Let’s not forget, Regina did go 28 long years without using magic, and during that time she still was manipulative and mean, and to some, truly evil. For her to put down the magic and try to become a better person will take more than just not using magic. She needs a complete personality make-over. How does one atone for the murder of their own father (Henry Sr.), lover – Sheriff Graham, and possible countless others?
I think Crest1994 has a good idea in suggesting that Regina might atone for her actions by sacrificing her life to save Henry. And I like the symmetry of Cora being the one who tries to kill Henry in front of Regina, just as she did Daniel. Henry is, after all, nothing to Cora but another source of “weakness” for Regina. And let’s face it, can we really imagine Regina making a sacrifice for anyone else? As long as Henry gets to tell her he loves her before she dies, she’ll have her “happy ending”.
I liked how it took Regina realizing that her relationship with Henry parrelelled her own relationship with her mother, in a way. Now that she recognizes just she’s become (“I don’t want to become you.”), I think she can strive to regain a peice of who she used to be. Letting Henry go with Charming showed just how serious she is about redeeming herself in the eyes of her son.
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