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Yay! These pictures gave me happy feelings. Finally they’re back together! I’m so excited for this reunion, and there is no way it’s Cora and Hook. It has to really be them, it just has to.
[adrotate group="5"]@Lil’Red wrote:
Was so excited to see these images! And then I read a theory where it’s not the real Snow or Emma – but Hook and Cora. The claim seems to be along the lines of Emma walking with a certain ‘swagger’ that more befits Hook and both their facial expressions being a bit off. Not sure, could just be the photographed moments are awkward in some but thought I’d put it out there.
This one seems the more likely Cora and Hook one. Emma being Hook and Snow being Cora.
That’s funny you said that because I read the theory about Emma and Snow really being Cora and Hook last night right after I posted the first picture, and then I actually worried about what if they were. (Maybe I need to find some kind of hobby. :D) Then, today I saw someone post just the same picture but with just of Snow and Charming together, and saying that it couldn’t be Cora and Hook because Cora or possibly Hook but probably Cora if it is indeed them wouldn’t get that close to Charming.
I tried to forget about it again though because while I want a reunion really badly, it seems sort of abrupt at least from recent spoilers that have come out. Now that you put it out there again though, Emma does look “swaggerful” and even Snow could be interpreted as sort of having a smirk like she’s really Cora and she’s happy that they’re fooling everyone.
I really didn’t think about the possibility that it could be Cora and Hook in disguise until someone brought it up first, but then I was like that does sort of make sense because I know the last spoilers I read about episodes 8 and 9 were that they were on a ship together headed somewhere with no mention at all of Emma or the rest of the gang being around.
Further, the spoiler about Snow and Charming being able to communicate to each other sounded like it was going to happen later on not in any of the episodes that were already filmed or being filmed at that time. I could be totally off base about that, but that’s the way interpreted it. I also thought about the spoiler about how Regina realizes that she actually needs Emma and Snow if she wants to continue her relationship with Henry. Now that could happen before this reunion takes place, but again when I read that spoiler it seemed like it was going to take place later then episode 10.
Then, there’s the fact that Aurora and Mulan are missing in these photos. I guess they could be stuck in FTL, have decided to stay there to protect the other refugees, or with Cora and Hook all on their way to Storybrooke eventually if this is indeed the real Snow and Emma, but it just seems off to me that they’re missing from the reunion.
Further, not really based on a spoiler, but it seemed like many of us here had the same thought that Henry and his dad would bond before Emma returned. Again, it could still happen if this takes place in episode 10, and Mysterious Man comes to Storybrooke before that. It just doesn’t seem to leave much time though. Of course, perhaps we wrong about our theory, but I don’t know if it’s me being paranoid or what now. I just feel like there’s things that are off about this reunion. I feel like it’s about time that the Charmings have been reunited again, but at the same time I’m thinking that it feels like it’s too soon based on the information that’s been put out there.
It just feels like there’s a trap being set by Hook and Cora well mostly Cora since she got some valuable information from Emma, and leave Regina thinking Emma is just like her mom and can’t keep her big mouth shut. I don’t think that Charming and Henry would begin to suspect anything, at least not at first, because they would be so happy about Emma and Snow back, that any weird behavior would go unnoticed by them. Gold or Regina might, but I think that they’ve got they’ll both be too busy thinking about their own lives that they won’t notice anything right away either.
I do have a wild theory about Emma’s tattoo and who might be the first to think Emma is an impostor based on the tattoo possibly not being there on fake Emma because Cora wouldn’t have known about it, but for now I’ll go with a little bit saner theory that I thought of. Since I don’t think Bae is going to turn out to be Peter Pan, if Hook is really in disguise as Emma, after a short time, I think Henry would most likely be the first to suspect that something was off, and that could create this Henry vs. Hook adversarial relationship which would be like Peter Pan vs. Hook. Maybe Henry isn’t the real Peter, but he could be a stand in like how they did the “Sleeping Beauty” story in “A Land Without Magic” with Emma and Henry. Plus, if we actually did see Hook go after Henry at first trying to shut him up and then later escalating into trying to kill him, it would definitely make him someone to root against if they’re setting up this Regina/Charming/Rumple vs. Hook/Cora battle royale for the season finale.
Well thanks for making me thoroughly paranoid, Antbee. Thank you very much. 😛 😆
The absence of Aurora and Mulan could be because Aurora refused to leave FTL without Phillip, and Mulan had to stay with her. I could see Aurora being all, “Hell no, I won’t go!” and running off back to Phillip, and Mulan being frustrated as all hell with her, but she has to run after her, because she knows that Phillip wouldn’t want Aurora running around on her own, completely unprotected.
Emma’s swagger could just be because she’s survived a horrific ordeal in FTL, so she’s feeling kinda badass at the moment.
Thinking more about it, I guess the thing that strikes me the most about this scene is that they seem to be calmly, happily just strolling down the street, but you’d think that Snow and Emma would know that Cora and Hook are potentially hot on their tails, trying to follow them to town. Though I suppose this scene is probably only gonna be a few seconds long, so it’s not like they’ll be hanging out and having a casual street party or anything, so maybe I shouldn’t read too much into that.
I really hope Emma and Snow White aren’t the impostors Hook and Cora. I’m just going to invoke the “if-I-pretend-it’s-not-ture-then-it’s-not” rule. 😉
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
If they’re going to throw in Mystery Man this early, then the Emma-and-Mary Margaret imposters would be an interesting situation for him to run into. Apart from Henry – who is always a clever little genius 😉 – Mystery Man might be the one to realize something’s off. I think Cora has a talent for observing people and copying their mannerisms; so much so that she was able to trick Mulan into thinking she was Lancelot.
But how would gleaning information and scheming work if no one else in Storybrooke knew about “Neal Cassady”? There’s no way for her to get that information or find out who he is. If Emma failed to react to him, it might set alarm bells off in his head. It also might act as the perfect catalyst to reveal his true identity to Henry. (If he is, Henry’s father. :D)
Thanks for the theory, AntBee. I admit I’m really excited about this imposter idea now…to have villains in disguise. :O Run, Rumple and Regina, Run!
@Naomi wrote:
If they’re going to throw in Mystery Man this early, then the Emma-and-Mary Margaret imposters would be an interesting situation for him to run into. Apart from Henry – who is always a clever little genius 😉 – Mystery Man might be the one to realize something’s off. I think Cora has a talent for observing people and copying their mannerisms; so much so that she was able to trick Mulan into thinking she was Lancelot.
But how would gleaning information and scheming work if no one else in Storybrooke knew about “Neal Cassady”? There’s no way for her to get that information or find out who he is. If Emma failed to react to him, it might set alarm bells off in his head. It also might act as the perfect catalyst to reveal his true identity to Henry. (If he is, Henry’s father. :D)
Thanks for the theory, AntBee. I admit I’m really excited about this imposter idea now…to have villains in disguise. :O Run, Rumple and Regina, Run!
Yes, while I want the Charmings to be reunited, I love the possibilities of Hook and Regina just being supremely evil and cunning villains and getting the jump on Emma and Snow otherwise the good guys will have more time to prepare to defeat them whenever they do arrive in Storybrooke. Obviously, they will defeat them in the end, but I think if everyone in Storybrooke or almost everyone in Storybrooke is taken in by the impostors, it will heighten the dramatic tension and really make everyone have to work together to be able to defeat Hook and Cora whenever it’s revealed that it’s not Emma and Snow.
Plus, yes as a believer that Baelfire is Henry’s father and hopeful that SwanFire happens, if Emma and Snow are really Hook and Cora, it sets up the opportunity for father and son to bond and father to get to redeem himself to son and mom for whatever happened. I don’t know that it will be enough at least in Emma’s eyes to set up a romantic relationship this early, but at least maybe they could go from loathing/not liking each other to at least friends. Also, I’m incredibly sappy so I think that would be great for SwanFire if they had Bae be the first person to know Emma wasn’t Emma even if it was only because she didn’t recognize who he really was, and not like in some movies/shows where a couple is so in love with each other that one person knows right away that the other person is an impostor and not really his/her love interest. Obviously, it’s more realistic and less cheesy/sappy if they have Bae know the truth first because impostor Emma doesn’t recognize him and punch his lights out right away, but for me it would be a variation of that trope.
ETA: Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! Now I’m really worried. I just saw this post at TWoP. http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3209355&view=findpost&p=15311839
Ugh. Here’s some more reunion pictures and a fans account of what was happening. Could be nothing but interesting that “Snow” films a scene entering and exiting Gold’s shop. Gold is seen entering a bit later. I put Snow in quotations because maybe it’s possible that it really is Hook?
Am I reading too much into it?
http://vancityfilmin…second-reunion/
Some tweets saying Barbara Hersey was filming at Gold’s shop and that Lana was spotted around too.
I think it’s the other way around and Cora is Snow since she would have a reason to go after Rumple too, but either way, it is weird that Snow of all people would visit Gold when she first gets back. I could see her wanting to warn Regina about Cora, but Rumple, I don’t think she knows about what all went down with Rumple/Cora/Regina unless she finds out before the reunion. (Again the spoilers don’t seem to have gave any indication that this will happen though which is setting off all my alarm bells.) The big thing though is Barbara Hershey is on set!!! Well if it’s true, that’s a pretty big indication to me that it’s not the real Emma and Snow in those pictures. Yikes!!!
Since I’m still holding onto hope that Emma and Snow White are their true selves when they return, maybe Snow White did go to confront Mr. Gold. After all, he was responsible for the dark curse and he did unleash the wraith in the first place, taking Emma and her to EF. Now that she’s seen the EF and the ruins that are there, maybe she’s going to give a piece of her mind to Gold and demand to know if there’s a way to restore their land. Also, maybe Barbara Hershey is playing Cora in the flesh, so to speak. It could be that the only way for Snow and Emma to get to SB was to hitch their cart to Captain Hook and Cora.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Why is Barbara Hershey being on set proof that this isn’t Snow and Emma? Wouldn’t it just be proof that Cora is in the scene? Why would she be on set of Cora was pretending to be Snow?
@hjbau wrote:
Why is Barbara Hershey being on set proof that this isn’t Snow and Emma? Wouldn’t it just be proof that Cora is in the scene? Why would she be on set of Cora was pretending to be Snow?
I think it could go either way.
I could see the show ending the winter break with Snow/Emma and Hook/Cora racing each other to get here at the end of episode 9, and then they return with this “reunion” where viewers think that “whew, luckily Emma and Snow made it to Storybrooke before Hook and Cora did,” and then wham, Cora has some kind of villain alone moment where she shapeshifts from Snow to Cora just to shock the audience. That could happen even before the winter break say in episode 8, we see Cora and Hook taking off for Storybrooke in his and wonder if Emma and Snow will ever beat them there, and then in episode 9 right before the winter break, we think that they did find a way back before Cora and Hook. Then surprise they reveal that Snow is really Cora at the end, and we have to spend all winter break wondering what’s going to happen.
Or it could be possible that Cora and Hook somehow snuck along with how Emma and Snow get here, but it just seems a little bit off for me right now, because the last spoilers that I read before these “reunion” pictures were of Cora and Hook on a ship together with Cora needing some kind of heart sacrifice. It’s certainly possible that Emma and Snow snuck on board Hook’s ship or find some other way to get to Storybrooke before Hook and Cora and that this a real reunion.
Mmm, here’s another spoiler that could point to this being the real Emma and Snow or impostors.
I could see Emma trying to warn Regina that her mother is headed towards Storybrooke, but then again, if Emma is really Hook in disguise, I could see Cora sending him to lay the groundwork for their dastardly plan.
ETA: Some more tweets that are leaving me confused as to whether or not this is really Emma and Snow with Cora sneaking into town with them, or if it’s really Cora and Hook. However, I do think that if they aren’t the real Emma and Snow, I had their identities mixed up based on their body language in the pictures because Emma must be Cora and Snow must be Hook which is why Cora/Emma has a face-off with Regina and Hook/Snow has a face-off with Rumple if this theory is true.
The second tweet is definitely a reference to Black Swan and Barbara Hershey’s character in it who is Cora-like, so I wonder if that’s a clue that Emma is really Cora.
ETAA: Now Hook is in officially in Storybrooke!
@AntBee wrote:
@Naomi wrote:
If they’re going to throw in Mystery Man this early, then the Emma-and-Mary Margaret imposters would be an interesting situation for him to run into. Apart from Henry – who is always a clever little genius 😉 – Mystery Man might be the one to realize something’s off. I think Cora has a talent for observing people and copying their mannerisms; so much so that she was able to trick Mulan into thinking she was Lancelot.
But how would gleaning information and scheming work if no one else in Storybrooke knew about “Neal Cassady”? There’s no way for her to get that information or find out who he is. If Emma failed to react to him, it might set alarm bells off in his head. It also might act as the perfect catalyst to reveal his true identity to Henry. (If he is, Henry’s father. :D)
Plus, yes as a believer that Baelfire is Henry’s father and hopeful that SwanFire happens, if Emma and Snow are really Hook and Cora, it sets up the opportunity for father and son to bond and father to get to redeem himself to son and mom for whatever happened. I don’t know that it will be enough at least in Emma’s eyes to set up a romantic relationship this early, but at least maybe they could go from loathing/not liking each other to at least friends.
The more I think about it, Hook posing as Emma could mess up the mother/son/father dynamic quite nicely and create some delicious drama.
We’re assuming that the Mystery Man will be Henry’s father and will soon be in SB. It’s highly probable he doesn’t know about Henry, so when he sees Henry and “Emma” together, he’ll go to confront “her” about it, to see if Henry is his kid, considering his age is right.
As Naomi said, no one else apart from Emma knows about Henry’s father, so if Hook is Emma, he’ll have no idea who this guy is, and “Emma’s” reaction to him, with the initial reaction of not recognising him at all, would likely make him suspicious. I guess his initial reaction, if they had a less than friendly separation back in the day, would be to try and convince her that she should give him another chance. But after a little while, he may start to wonder if there’s something sinister going on.
At that stage, if he’s suspecting that Emma may not be Emma, he may try to get Henry away from “her”. That’s gonna mess the kid’s head up. Wonder if he’d tell Henry he’s his father, even if he isn’t 100% sure? Or would he just be some new guy, hanging around, telling Henry not to trust his mother? Either way, it means angst for Henry. Emma told Henry that his father was dead, so it’s not like the kid would believe it if some random suddenly says, ‘I’m your father, and trust me, that person is NOT your mother.” But even if he doesn’t tell Henry, “I’m your father,” he’ll still just be some random guy telling Henry not to trust his mother. He could try speaking to Charming about it, but why would Charming have any reason to believe his story either? Though I guess he could start keeping a closer eye on “Emma”, and maybe he’ll notice that something odd is going on with “Snow” too, and eventually they’ll figure it out.
Then, one day, RealEmma ends up back in town, and finds out that Henry’s father is there, that he’s freaked Henry out, but only done it in an attempt to protect the kid. And he could also have potentially become friends with Emma’s dad. All of that could make for a fabulously awkward situation for Emma to come back to, so I could totally see them going the impostor route.
@AntBee wrote:
hjbau wrote:
Why is Barbara Hershey being on set proof that this isn’t Snow and Emma? Wouldn’t it just be proof that Cora is in the scene? Why would she be on set of Cora was pretending to be Snow?I could see the show ending the winter break with Snow/Emma and Hook/Cora racing each other to get here at the end of episode 9, and then they return with this “reunion” where viewers think that “whew, luckily Emma and Snow made it to Storybrooke before Hook and Cora did,” and then wham, Cora has some kind of villain alone moment where she shapeshifts from Snow to Cora just to shock the audience.
Yes, if “Snow” and Cora are in fact the same person, there’ll need to be a reveal, and that would explain why both actresses would be shooting in Mr Gold’s shop, because of course Cora would want Rumple to know that she’s in town.
Ya know, now I’m kinda hoping that they ARE shape shifting impostors, because that would mean that Cora can shapeshift into people who aren’t dead, because there’s no way they’re gonna kill off Snow or Emma, which in turn means there’s hope for Lancelot. If Snow and Emma are still back in FTL, it means they can find him, and they can go back and get Phillip, and then the whole bunch of them can eventually end up in SB. If Snow and Emma leave FTL without Lancelot, Mulan, Aurora and Phillip, then that’s those characters pretty much done, because they’re not major enough for the writers to spend more time with them in FTL trying to get to SB. They wouldn’t even know where they’re trying to get to. The only way to keep those characters in the storyline, is for them to travel with Snow and Emma. And we didn’t see any of them in that “reunion” scene. At the very least, Charming would have been hugging Lancelot if he was there.
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