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October 26, 2012 at 5:06 am #158061antbeeParticipant
@Phee wrote:
At that stage, if he’s suspecting that Emma may not be Emma, he may try to get Henry away from “her”. That’s gonna mess the kid’s head up. Wonder if he’d tell Henry he’s his father, even if he isn’t 100% sure? Or would he just be some new guy, hanging around, telling Henry not to trust his mother? Either way, it means angst for Henry. Emma told Henry that his father was dead, so it’s not like the kid would believe it if some random suddenly says, ‘I’m your father, and trust me, that person is NOT your mother.” But even if he doesn’t tell Henry, “I’m your father,” he’ll still just be some random guy telling Henry not to trust his mother. He could try speaking to Charming about it, but why would Charming have any reason to believe his story either? Though I guess he could start keeping a closer eye on “Emma”, and maybe he’ll notice that something odd is going on with “Snow” too, and eventually they’ll figure it out.
Then, one day, RealEmma ends up back in town, and finds out that Henry’s father is there, that he’s freaked Henry out, but only done it in an attempt to protect the kid. And he could also have potentially become friends with Emma’s dad. All of that could make for a fabulously awkward situation for Emma to come back to, so I could totally see them going the impostor route.
Yes!!! I’m loving all the ways that they could go with a possible impostor story line. While I want the Charmings to be together again, I think a fake story line gives the writers so much more to potentially work with especially with the new characters.
Ya know, now I’m kinda hoping that they ARE shape shifting impostors, because that would mean that Cora can shapeshift into people who aren’t dead, because there’s no way they’re gonna kill off Snow or Emma, which in turn means there’s hope for Lancelot. If Snow and Emma are still back in FTL, it means they can find him, and they can go back and get Phillip, and then the whole bunch of them can eventually end up in SB. If Snow and Emma leave FTL without Lancelot, Mulan, Aurora and Phillip, then that’s those characters pretty much done, because they’re not major enough for the writers to spend more time with them in FTL trying to get to SB. They wouldn’t even know where they’re trying to get to. The only way to keep those characters in the storyline, is for them to travel with Snow and Emma. And we didn’t see any of them in that “reunion” scene. At the very least, Charming would have been hugging Lancelot if he was there.
Yes, that’s an excellent point, if Snow and Emma leave FTL without any of the new characters that we’ve met there even with a promise of “someday soon we’ll all be together” or something along those lines, I’d feel that those new characters are pretty much done for. Yes, they might get back to them like they did Cinderella and Thomas, but they wouldn’t feel that important anymore which I think would be a terrible waste of time by the writers since they have built up Aurora and Mulan for the first half of the season only to ditch them in second half of the season. Also, great point about them not even knowing what they’re looking for in order to get to Storybrooke, so I think at least one of them has to go to Storybrooke just so that person can go back later and bring everyone to Storybrooke while Emma and Snow are busy with whatever is going on in Storybrooke at the time. (That could be the spoiler that K&H were talking about when they said we would see someone besides Emma and Snow return to FTL.)
Also, since Rumple and Regina may have their hands full, maybe this is where Barrett, Anita, and Quinn come in at to help either Henry and Charming in some way or help Emma and Snow in some way. I would guess just based on Barrett’s description that he’s probably in FTL right now, and that he’ll help Emma and Snow get back which will fool them into thinking he’s on their side for awhile until next season when he becomes the next big bad.
[adrotate group="5"]October 26, 2012 at 7:37 am #158065PheeParticipant@AntBee wrote:
ETA: Some more tweets that are leaving me confused as to whether or not this is really Emma and Snow with Cora sneaking into town with them, or if it’s really Cora and Hook. However, I do think that if they aren’t the real Emma and Snow, I had their identities mixed up based on their body language in the pictures because Emma must be Cora and Snow must be Hook which is why Cora/Emma has a face-off with Regina and Hook/Snow has a face-off with Rumple if this theory is true.
I’d think it’d be more likely that Snow would be Cora. Hell, if I were Cora, I’d pick to be the one who gets to make out with Charming, and by the same token, Hook seemed pretty straight, so he’d probably prefer to be in the body that’s not making out with Charming. 😉
The mention of the cake scene is curious. Doesn’t necessarily mean that “Emma” is Cora though, she could still be Hook and be doing something that Cora had told him to. Or maybe Cora can just choose to be either of them at any time, should the situation require it.
October 26, 2012 at 10:49 am #158066naomiParticipantJust another little idea, if Rumple taught Cora about magic and the power of names, the only name that Cora would not know is “Neal Cassady’s”. This doesn’t have to be limited to the imposter theory, and might come into play later on in the season. Neal/Henry’s father might be protected because his identity is so obscure – he might be able to escape Cora’s magic and save the day.
AntBee wrote: I would guess just based on Barrett’s description that he’s probably in FTL right now, and that he’ll help Emma and Snow get back which will fool them into thinking he’s on their side for awhile until next season when he becomes the next big bad.
[minor spoilers for 2×11]
Brilliant idea! The timing might be a big clue – maybe Barrett (the major recurring character we're meeting in 2×11) – is the FTL character who helps Emma and Snow back to Storybrooke. Although, I’m not sure if his having “a dark side and a way of life he will fight fiercely to defend” will necessarily make him a villain in the grandiose I’ll-hurt-everyone-and-make-them-pay sense…they also describe him as “kind and smart”, after all. Perhaps he’s another character with good intentions who’s a bit morally obscure. (But aren’t they all? lol.)
Actually, if it weren’t for his age (30s), the timing of Barrett's introduction (after Hook presumably makes it to our world), his character description (kind and smart, with a way of life he will fight fiercely to defend), and now this idea that he might help Emma and Snow make it back to our world, make him sound like a Peter Pan to me.
^ I know that’s going to be a very unpopular theory. Just, throwing it out there! 🙂
And I agree, Phee. Cora would be Snow for the fake!reunion. I can’t see Hook signing up for that canoodling.
October 26, 2012 at 12:13 pm #158069hjbauParticipantSo what exactly would be the purpose of Cora and Hook pretending to be Emma and Snow? Like why wouldn’t Cora just walk in and try to kill Regina or whatever she is going to do to her, take her heart, take her magic. Why pretend to be someone else?
October 26, 2012 at 12:19 pm #158070hjbauParticipantAlso the girl who is writing the tweets said she doesn’t know if they are Hook and Cora so i think that it is reading too much into her tweets to say she is implying that it is the case. The girl doesn’t know.
https://twitter.com/SarahHeartie/status/261730032832086016
@SarahHeartie Please confirm one thing that everyone is worried about. Are Emma & Snow themselves or or they Hook & Cora posing as them?@Tyler_Cull3n Guess we’ll just have 2 wait + see!! We watch filming but generally dont know whats goin on.Seems pretty far fetched 2me tho..
From seeing this girls tweets over the months it seems like she likes to watch the filming, but really has little clue about what is going on in the show. At least not hard core. Like she tries to hide things that she thinks are spoilers which we all just consider to be known.
October 26, 2012 at 12:30 pm #158072naomiParticipantSo what exactly would be the purpose of Cora and Hook pretending to be Emma and Snow? Like why wouldn’t Cora just walk in and try to kill Regina or whatever she is going to do to her, take her heart, take her magic. Why pretend to be someone else?
For Cora? Easy. To get to Henry.
I think most “theorists” agree that Henry is part of Cora’s plan involving Regina. We don’t know how, obviously. We don’t know in what context, or to what end. But he’s definitely going to be a part of the Cora-Regina confrontation.
October 26, 2012 at 12:48 pm #158075antbeeParticipant@Naomi wrote:
For Cora? Easy. To get to Henry.
I think most “theorists” agree that Henry is part of Cora’s plan involving Regina. We don’t know how, obviously. We don’t know in what context, or to what end. But he’s definitely going to be a part of the Cora-Regina confrontation.
Yes, while I could see them trying to take everyone by surprise just by barging in and trying to attack everyone before they know what’s happened if they aren’t fake Emma and Snow, the show could justify the impostor story line by having Cora and Hook, but mostly Cora, worry about how powerful Rumple and Regina are at the moment. They could just go in and attack them, but both could be ultra-powerful and take out Cora and Hook with no problem. So Cora might think it’s safer to pose as Snow and Emma first to get a feel on the whole Storybrooke situation first.
By doing that, they can also discover their enemies’ weaknesses. With Regina, it’s obviously Henry, but right not I don’t think Hook knows about Rumple having Belle as a weakness. So what better way to have Hook find out about Belle through pretending to be Emma or Snow. He can run into his old friend Smee, and convince Smee that he’s really Hook with information that both of them would only know or show him his real identity for a moment to convince Smee, and voila Smee reveals to Hook everything that he’s observed in Storybrooke including Rumple’s and Belle’s relationship.
The longer they’re able to fool everyone else, the more vulnerable the good guys plus Rumple and Regina will be when everyone finally does learn the truth. Not only could they find information, but think about how the potential chaos they could inflict by trying to pit people against each other. Like if fake!Emma has an argument with Regina, which could be about something along the lines of Emma saying, “I met your mother, and she’s a real piece of work. I see what you’ve become, and I’m going to make sure you don’t get anywhere near Henry again because I don’t trust you around him.” I could just see Cora doing that to cause even more friction between the two of them, that way if and when Emma ever returns, Regina will be that less likely to try to ally with her and the Charmings because she’ll keep wondering if the real Emma might do something like that to her one day. It doesn’t necessarily have to be an argument over Henry, but just something that Cora knows will push Regina’s buttons to weaken her mentally until she knows for sure when would be the best time to take out Rumple and Regina.
Also the girl who is writing the tweets said she doesn’t know if they are Hook and Cora so i think that it is reading too much into her tweets to say she is implying that it is the case. The girl doesn’t know.
It could be, but I think she’s just trying to cover her butt because she’s the one that revealed the spoilers about Belle being kidnapped and Henry’s dad appearing in episode 6 and basically being MR-J. She never comes right out and says these things probably because she doesn’t want to get in trouble with her source or sources, but she’s always hinted at these big story lines in some way which is why I think she included the cake reference.
I’d think it’d be more likely that Snow would be Cora. Hell, if I were Cora, I’d pick to be the one who gets to make out with Charming, and by the same token, Hook seemed pretty straight, so he’d probably prefer to be in the body that’s not making out with Charming.
The mention of the cake scene is curious. Doesn’t necessarily mean that “Emma” is Cora though, she could still be Hook and be doing something that Cora had told him to. Or maybe Cora can just choose to be either of them at any time, should the situation require it.
Yes, I would have thought Cora would have been Snow too because she’s known Snow longer, and yes to avoid a potential Hook as Snow/Charming reunion making out. (Although I think it would be funny, but they probably wouldn’t want to do that to Hook because they might be afraid it would hurt his reputation as a ladies’ man.) So I’m not sure how the potential shape shifting will work out yet.
October 26, 2012 at 3:11 pm #158081SlurpeezParticipantHere’s a link with some photos and some info. about filming on Oct. 25:
http://storybrookemirror.tumblr.com/post/34359565108/vancity-filming-october-25th-filming
I think that Regina also shared scenes with Cora and maybe HookI’m laughing about this candid one! It’s not the most flattering picture for Emilie.
One of Emma going into Gold’s pawn shop:
I think it could be legit Emma and Snow to have Charming join them on their business inside of Gold’s shop.I believe Charming of all men would be able to tell if Snow were an impostor. He was able to tell the Siren wasn’t Snow, because he felt it in his heart. Also, he could tell when Snow White ate the poisoned apple and fell into a deep sleep. Charming should be able to tell his wife is a fake or not.
Photo source: https://twitter.com/PUNKD_Images
Plus, some more hints about who’s on set:
I think the two unnamed people in the scene with Rumpel and Belle are none other than Hook and Cora. I have a feeling that they’re going to be in their own true forms, since both Barbara Hershey and Colin O’Donoghue were on set. Perhaps Belle is trying to talk them down from an all-out conflict, and trying to prevent Rumpel from using magic as retaliation. I also think that the images we saw of the Charming clan going into Gold’s shop are of them trying to break up a conflict between Rumpel, Hook and Cora. It seems like all four characters, Cora, Hook, Emma, and Snow, made it back to SB.Meghan Ory posted this humorous tweet:
meghanrory: Spotted…a #snowwhite impersonater in #storybrooke !
http://instagram.com/p/RQn7TgMNiw/
Either she’s giving a huge hint, or she knows about the impostor theory and is jesting."That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 26, 2012 at 11:20 pm #158116naomiParticipantThanks for the photos, slurpeez.
But really – to me something seems off about their clothing. Maybe I’m just paranoid. Have we ever seen Snow wear black? Or Emma wear that type of jacket?
No? Well, regardless, the imposter theory seems to have spread to different fan sites. Can’t wait to see how it turns out! Kudos to the writers/crew for adding fuel to the fire. 😉 Like Gold said in The Return, “we see what we want to see”.
October 26, 2012 at 11:58 pm #158124hjbauParticipantThe thing is we never actually have seen Snow pick clothes from Storybrooke. She is wearing in fairytale land what she was wearing in Storybrooke before the curse was broken or at least we are supposed to believe that is so. She clearly changed her shoes, but otherwise she is wearing what Mary Margaret chose to put on when she went for a walk after Henry died.
I can’t quite deal with the idea that the family, Red, the dwarfs just wouldn’t noticed.
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