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November 29, 2015 at 10:40 pm #313185
RumplesGirl
KeymasterMerlin, everyone’s favorite sorcerer died at the hands of Nimue/Hook/All The Dark Ones.
In the end, what did you think of his character? And what did you think of who killed him?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 29, 2015 at 10:43 pm #313188MatthewPaul
ModeratorI really did enjoy Merlin, and it’s a shame they killed him off. I feel like the main reason they did so was because he’s too powerful to keep around, aside from his weakness of the Dark One being able to kill him.
November 30, 2015 at 12:07 am #313207TheWatcher
ParticipantI absolutely loved him and honestly, am not surprised to see him go. Yet another POC bites the dust on this show. If Lancelot lives, I will be shocked, but then again he was never important anyway. Anywhoo, I hate the fact that he’s dead. I hate the reason that he died. I hate that Emma just turned him into dust in the wind. I hate everything about it and surrounding it.
I feel like the main reason they did so was because he’s too powerful to keep around, aside from his weakness of the Dark One being able to kill him.
But Merlin was currently powerless. He had no magic. That fixes that issue right there. Once the dark one situation was handled, there was no guarantee that Merlin would gain back his powers or something. They didn’t need to kill him.
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ParticipantThere aren’t enough tables in the podcast to flip for me to vent my anger. We spent two seasons looking for Merlin and they killed him in ten episodes….I just can’t! Then he was played by a brilliant POC, I understand he couldn’t stay around forever, but c’mon….there were other ways.
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November 30, 2015 at 3:04 am #313219MatthewPaul
ModeratorWe still don’t know what Merlin meant when he said “there is only one person who can help you defeat the Dark One now. Her name is Nimue. If you want to destroy the darkness then you must…” Maybe he foresaw Nimue’s return in Storybrooke, and we’ll get the answer soon. Maybe since Nimue is the original Dark One, defeating her in some sort of way is the key to destroying the Dark One curse?
November 30, 2015 at 3:12 am #313220TheWatcher
ParticipantOr maybe get Nimuet to turn from Darkness to light. OUAT likes to do that with villains. The darkness is just an extension of her magic…maybe if she is no longer dark, the magic won’t be either?
“If you want to destroy the darkness then you must….help Nimue find redemption”
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICNovember 30, 2015 at 3:39 am #313222kranen
ParticipantIf Lancelot lives, I will be shocked, but then again he was never important anyway.
Honestly, I don’t think we’ll see Lancelot again for a while. At the beginning of the episode they had him riding off to his mother (The Lady of the Lake). He hasn’t been seen in Storybrooke all season and wasn’t in the montage towards the end of the episode so I think it’s safe to assume that he’s still in the Enchanted Forest somewhere until they need him again in a few seasons time.
November 30, 2015 at 4:00 am #313224MatthewPaul
ModeratorHonestly, I don’t think we’ll see Lancelot again for a while. At the beginning of the episode they had him riding off to his mother (The Lady of the Lake). He hasn’t been seen in Storybrooke all season and wasn’t in the montage towards the end of the episode so I think it’s safe to assume that he’s still in the Enchanted Forest somewhere until they need him again in a few seasons time.
Actually, I think there’s a chance that we’ll see him and /or the Lady of the Lake in next week’s Mid-Season finale. Lancelot was sent to find his mother as an ally, and that very well might play a role. For one, she’s the Lady of the Lake, and the portal of the Underworld just happened to be shown in a lake in the very same episode. Maybe the Lady of the Lake can transport between realms via water like mermaids can? Just seems like a deus ex machina type plot device that they would do.
November 30, 2015 at 4:07 am #313226Phee
ParticipantHonestly, I don’t think we’ll see Lancelot again for a while.
When he left them all, I almost actually said out loud, “And that was the last anyone ever saw or heard of Sir Lancelot.”
It was obviously coming, but still, I’m annoyed that Merlin’s dead. The actual circumstances I don’t mind so much, because Hook being horrible, and lying, and using, and not caring who gets hurt in the process is the most entertaining he’s been in ages. Just wish the result of the plan hadn’t been us losing Merlin so quickly like that.
November 30, 2015 at 9:12 am #313236RumplesGirl
KeymasterActually, I think there’s a chance that we’ll see him and /or the Lady of the Lake in next week’s Mid-Season finale. Lancelot was sent to find his mother as an ally, and that very well might play a role. For one, she’s the Lady of the Lake, and the portal of the Underworld just happened to be shown in a lake in the very same episode. Maybe the Lady of the Lake can transport between realms via water like mermaids can? Just seems like a deus ex machina type plot device that they would do.
That’s actually fairly logical, so it works for me.
Merlin’s dead and a few other people have touched on the PoC problem that once again has cropped into this narrative. I don’t want to be soapboxy so I’ll just state my case and move on.
I have been predicting for sometime that Merlin was dead and that somehow there was a loophole so that wasn’t shocking. But the sad fact is that the perpetrator of the murder wasn’t shocking either. That isn’t a slam against Hook (though, he’s killed before as demonstrated by his many baubles) but rather that I am not surprised that the Person of Color was killed to further a white character’s story. When the various Arthurian members were cast for season 5A, I was actually very pleasantly surprised that the writers had cast a Latina Guinevere and an African Merlin. Sure, it was clearly because the writers were aware of the (well deserved) criticism that OUAT has a serious race problem, but at least they were trying to course correct and appease instead of letting it slide. Little did I know what they had in store for these two new PoC’s. Let’s take inventory, shall we? Guinevere was enslaved by her white husband and then turned into a rape object, also by her white husband, because of his man pain over her kissing a black character. That same black character, by the way, was spotted tonight before he was sent packing to his mommy because heaven forbid that Lancelot play any sort of active role in his own mythology. Merlin, the show’s most powerful sorcerer, was also enslaved by a white character (Arthur) and then was killed by another white character only to fuel that white character’s storyline. This show has such a major racial problem but the egregious issue is not that it has a race problem and is trying to actively make a commentary on race in fiction or in our reality, but that it’s an unintentional racial problem. In other words, the writers don’t actually realize that the plot they write for the people of color are always the same and always racist–they appear and then are summarily dismissed (either killed or written off) once they have served their purpose. You know, there’s an actual trope called the magical negro; their main purpose is to come to the aid of the white characters and once they have fulfilled their role as a helpmate, they either die or simply vanish from the narrative. Sound familiar?
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