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May 11, 2016 at 4:39 am #323421NordicaParticipant
Where to even begin? I’m still both disappointed and genuinely heartbroken about this turn of events. Killing the heroic and selfless Robin Hood …
And this has nothing to do with ships.
Yes, Robin’s role was reduced, writing for his character had become questionable, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was put on the show to create hope and be a symbol of second chances, something that’s everything to a lot of people. And that’s what died on Sunday.
I feel the writers have come to betray their own story with this one, and I’m beyond frustrated, because I see no good reason for it other than a lack of imagination in how to write for Robin … (I’m sorry, if this i harsh, but then get somebody with a fresh quill).
Following SoMe and what little Adam has said, it really seems like heartbreak just for the sake of it. There’s no plan, I don’t believe it. They’re zigging and zagging at this point – so let me repeat – they’re at a point where they’re betraying their own story and all that it has come to mean for us.
And they should know better. They DO know better. They’re smart people. But maybe they’ve forgotten. What was it the apprentice said to Henry. Being the author carries great responsibility … And by killing off Robin, I truly feel that A&E have not lived up to that responsibility and have let down their otherwise loyal fanbase. The discontent with Robin’s demise and the way it was handled transcends ships and fragmentation in the fanbase. No one gets is. No one thinks it’s a good idea. We’re all just so very sad … For Regina, for Roland, for ourselves – but mainly for the fairy tale and the hope that feeds our souls.
Maybe this would be one time where the author(s) should take a cue from the characters and just – let them live … return hope to us, bring back Robin Hood.
[adrotate group="5"]May 11, 2016 at 10:27 am #323430themagicofonceuponatimeParticipantI really didn’t like Robin’s demise. All I know is that Regina better be pregnant. I want her to be happy. Remember anything is possible in a land with Magic. Magic is a part of Nature, It is Nature. So it adapts and evolves. Do not apply logic to it. Here’s hoping Regina doesn’t go crazy when she finds out Hook is alive.
-Magic
May 11, 2016 at 10:37 am #323431PheeParticipantYes, Robin’s role was reduced, writing for his character had become questionable, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was put on the show to create hope and be a symbol of second chances, something that’s everything to a lot of people. And that’s what died on Sunday.
It didn’t die on Sunday, it died back when they did the same thing with Neal. Unfortunately the way they treated Robin and everything he represented isn’t a new thing, it’s a continuing trend, and it’s really quite depressing.
May 11, 2016 at 4:12 pm #323460WickedRegalParticipant“David Dies”
Snow White: Quick Regina, split my heart!
“Hook Dies”
Emma: Quick Regina, let’s all go to the Underworld!
“Robin Hood Dies”
Snow & Emma: I’m so sorry for your loss…let me treat you to some Granny’s!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
May 11, 2016 at 4:34 pm #323463nevermoreParticipantSnow & Emma: I’m so sorry for your loss…let me treat you to some Granny’s!
Yup…
Not to mention Snow’s little reassurance speech to Emma about how Robin’s death isn’t her fault and she shouldn’t feel responsible. Actually, it kinda is and she kinda should.
Also, that gif of Tom Hiddleston captures exactly how I feel about OUAT these days.
May 11, 2016 at 10:25 pm #323519SlurpeezParticipantNot to mention Snow’s little reassurance speech to Emma about how Robin’s death isn’t her fault and she shouldn’t feel responsible. Actually, it kinda is and she kinda should.
Don’t forget, Snow White probably harbors feelings of deep guilt over the death of Daniel (even though Cora manipulated 10-year-old Snow). So, Snow telling Emma not to blame herself for Robin’s death is likely Snow’s way of reassuring herself that she’s not to blame for the death of Daniel (even though she partially was).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
May 12, 2016 at 5:05 am #323526sciencevsmagicParticipantDon’t forget, Snow White probably harbors feelings of deep guilt over the death of Daniel (even though Cora manipulated 10-year-old Snow). So, Snow telling Emma not to blame herself for Robin’s death is likely Snow’s way of reassuring herself that she’s not to blame for the death of Daniel (even though she partially was).
The frustrating thing is that both of Snow’s extremes (deep guilt, blame absolving speeches) miss the point. Nobody wants a character to undergo constant self flagellation for all the wrong they’ve done. Guilt in and of itself helps nobody. It’s about taking responsibility and learning from their mistakes. Emma never seems to do that, and THAT for me, is the most frustrating part. Perhaps that’s also one of the (many) reasons why Regina is so popular. Instead of getting mired in self loathing, she’s used it to propel herself forward in a new direction.
May 12, 2016 at 12:01 pm #323533nevermoreParticipantDon’t forget, Snow White probably harbors feelings of deep guilt over the death of Daniel (even though Cora manipulated 10-year-old Snow). So, Snow telling Emma not to blame herself for Robin’s death is likely Snow’s way of reassuring herself that she’s not to blame for the death of Daniel (even though she partially was).
I wish the show actually could muster the depth and thoughtfulness that your interpretation of it has. It’d be a much better show. I’m not so convinced that they are thinking about their characters in such nuanced, careful way, to be honest.
obody wants a character to undergo constant self flagellation for all the wrong they’ve done. Guilt in and of itself helps nobody. It’s about taking responsibility and learning from their mistakes. Emma never seems to do that, and THAT for me, is the most frustrating part. Perhaps that’s also one of the (many) reasons why Regina is so popular.
I think more broadly, Regina seems to be the only character who is written with any sort of self-awareness, and that actually grows and evolves somewhat organically. Everyone else is pretty much plug-and-play at this point — either there to fulfill the needs of the plot, character development be damned, or to give the audience what the show runners think the audience wants (Emma’s characterization in relation to the needs of CS)
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