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I’m pretty sure he is not dead. Of course it would be a good ending for his character but it looked more liked he would be teleported into another realm.
Probably the same where the wraith took Philip’s soul. I mean it could be a land of lost souls and based on that they put a lot of Greek Mythology into the show I would theorize it might be Hades, the Greek underworld.
But just the first thing witch came into my mind.Works for me.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I was heartbroken for a while, but I got over it quickly simply because there is NO way in Hades that they’re keeping him dead.
I’m still confused, to be honest. Did we ever get a reason that Rumple needed to stab himself as well as Pan/Malcolm? Did I miss it? Once I came down a bit from the “ARGH” reaction, I just can’t get past this. It didn’t make sense.
Also … did the golden light when Malcolm and Rumple disappeared make anyone else think of the light at the end of the Disney Beauty & The Beast … when the Beast turns human again? 🙂
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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan ThomasI was heartbroken for a while, but I got over it quickly simply because there is NO way in Hades that they’re keeping him dead.
Yeah. I’m not in the “omg he’s dead” phase anymore. My pain is coming from his sacrifice and how (despite being spoiled about other MAJOR events in 311) this one I didn’t know and how it hit me like a tons of bricks. His final words followed by the kiss to his papa which to me was a “I forgive you” was just….*tears*
I’m still confused, to be honest. Did we ever get a reason that Rumple needed to stab himself as well as Pan/Malcolm? Did I miss it? Once I came down a bit from the “ARGH” reaction, I just can’t get past this. It didn’t make sense. Also … did the golden light when Malcolm and Rumple disappeared make anyone else think of the light at the end of the Disney Beauty & The Beast … when the Beast turns human again?
Oh I have NO idea why they are connected. The unanswered question is bugging me a lot.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I just rewatched 311 and I think, when Rumple called his shadow back and reattached it, Rumple grabbed Pan so the shadow bonded the two together, Pan couldn’t escape. When Rumple stabbed Pan, because they were bonded together, Rumple was affected too.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI just rewatched 311 and I think, when Rumple called his shadow back and reattached it, Rumple grabbed Pan so the shadow bonded the two together, Pan couldn’t escape. When Rumple stabbed Pan, because they were bonded together, Rumple was affected too.
OH! Was that the little spark of electricity?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"According to ABC’s official recap, this explains why Rumple “died” along with Pan:
Mr. Gold appears behind him. He has words of love for both Neal and Belle. He summons his shadow, who brings him his dagger. Rumplestiltskin knows that the only way for Pan to die is if they both die. He holds him close as he plunges the dagger through his back. It goes through his body and into Rumple’s as well. Pan returns to his original form. Magic washes over father and son until both are gone. Rumplestiltskin saved them.
So, because Rumple was gripped around Pan the way he was, the dagger pierced both of their bodies. If this is correct, it makes more sense.
Is the blade really long enough to have done that, though? I guess if it’s the official explanation, then that’s that, but I’ve gotta fanwank a bit to be able to accept it. Now I feel the need to go analyse screencaps of the dagger being held, to try and gauge the length of the blade. LOL
. Magic washes over father and son until both are gone. Rumplestiltskin saved them.
Gone… Not dead but gone…That could mean transported to another realm. Alright the dagger plunging usually is fatal but hey. this is Rumpel… He has more lives than a cat.
BTW Henry was not his undoing, his father was. He wasn’t saving Henry, but everybody. So he should live (else I’ll be very cross :P)
I like the “attached the shadow” idea but I still feel like it does nos quite make sense. In Chat someone said that Pan’s magic was too strong so Rumple had to use the dagger to kill himself as the only way the DO could die.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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