Robin Hood and Marian’s baby?

[spinninggold]

@lilysmom wrote:

Ok. I have been trying to figure out what has been bothering me about this theory. I think it is the timing. K&H have insisted that Tamara is from our world. This story happened years before the curse so it is logical to believe that the baby was born in FTL. So even if they were able to escape the curse, the baby is from FTL and couldn’t be Tamara

There isn’t that much time difference between the start of the Rumbelle romance and the casting of the curse. Less than a decade and my guess would be 5 years. (also let’s give Adam&Eddie some poetic license here for the sake of the story) So that would make Tamara about 5 years older than Emma. Neal is also about 5 years (+ 300) older than Emma, so that makes them the same age. If Tamara got sent away as a baby to our world that would still fit. Or maybe she got sent as a little girl of 4/5 years old, which would mean she has just a vague recollection of magic (and how it destroyed her parents? Nice tie in with “All magic comes with a price”)
And actually Adam&Eddie never flat out said she was from our world, they played an extreme game of dodge ball, saying “as far as we know” and stuff like that…. Sneaky little men.

@Phee wrote:

@SpinningGold wrote:

But I’m gonna lay a parallel to Emma or rather, her story. What if Tamara’s is the same? She got send here as a baby without her parents to have a chance at life. Look at how close Emma got to becoming some kinda little thug, she was stealing cars, shoplifting… it could have easily gone the other way, and she would have been no different than Tamara, looking out for number one.

That would be really interesting if they go that route, sort of making Emma and Tamara different sides of the same coin. Adds a little extra something to the dynamic of Neal being stuck between them, too. These two thieving women he’s been involved with, who both started out their lives in the same way, in the same land he came from.

Oh I think Adam&Eddie love that showing two sides, just look at the ones they have done already. Belle & Milah, Rumbelle & Corumple, Regina & Snowhite, David & James, Belle & Lacey…. Emma and Tamara would fit right in there.

I do hope we get to find out how Marian got so sick. Would be a bit disappointing if she just innocently caught the plague. Someone trying to prevent her from giving birth for some reason would be much more fun.

Me too, but I think they’ll be back, I think Adam already hinted at that. They would actually be important for the season finale. Yay, more Tom Ellis!

[storybrookegirl]

I don’t know that Tamara is necessarily from our world either, if K & H are dancing around those questions and she never actually said she was, she just said she was “quite human.” Humans can be born in FTL. I think that Tamara is going to wind up being some sort of offspring of Hood and Marian’s, even though I can’t figure out the timeline on this one. She’s either their daughter ( Tamara = unborn baby in Lacey), their granddaughter (Marian = lady in picture), or their great-granddaughter (Unborn baby = lady in picture). This would be interesting because we know from the Season 1 ep where Graham finds out he’s the Huntsman that when someone saves/ spares the life of a pregnant woman, the child and the person have a “special connection” (like Emma and Graham; only not necessarily romantic). Will this lead Tamara to actually help the CharmingStiltskins in the future?

[Slurpeez]

There was an article published the week before Lacey aired, which I think offers a clue about the inter-connectedness of all these new characters and there being no such thing as mere coincidences on this show.

WHAT DOES TAMARA BRING? | …Tamara and Greg’s mysterious agenda will be made clear over the next two episodes (“That reveal takes off like a rocket,” effuses Horowitz), and as hinted in the last episode, Regina — having deduced Greg’s true identity — “will be front and center in that story,” Kitsis says. “There are not a lot of coincidences here…,” Horowitz says with a smile. “There’s a reason for all of the connections we’ve revealed so far — and some we have yet to reveal.” (And yes, Kurt Flynn’s fate will be divulged by season’s end.) http://tvline.com/2013/04/16/once-upon-a-time-season-2-spoilers-rumple-neal-emma-hook-finale/

The fact that Horowitz said there are some connections which have yet to be revealed with regards to Tamara, I think, means Robin and Marian are Tamara’s parents. It’s not just a coincidence that Tamara and Marian are both African-American or that Marian was pregnant with a child, just like it wasn’t a coincidence that Tamara turned out to be HER (which a lot of people disputed before it was confirmed). Also, why else would the producers introduce new characters like Robin and Marian this late in the season, especially in a Rumbelle episode, unless they tie back into the overall main plot? There is a reason Robin Hood and Marian were introduced when they were, and I believe it’s because they’re going to be revealed as the parents of Tamara.

lilysmom wrote: Ok. I have been trying to figure out what has been bothering me about this theory. I think it is the timing. K&H have insisted that Tamara is from our world. This story happened years before the curse so it is logical to believe that the baby was born in FTL. So even if they were able to escape the curse, the baby is from FTL and couldn’t be Tamara

In terms of the timing, Tamara looks to be around 30. If her parents left the EF for our world just after Robin healed Marian, then actually, her age works perfectly with the timeline. The baby could easily have been born in America a few years before the curse was even unleashed. Her parents might have immigrated to a Land Without Magic simply to escape whatever evil had plagued Marian (perhaps it was dark magic). Also, Tamara’s casting call was very specific:

“African American, Late 20s to mid 30s. She’s beautiful, artistic, relaxed, friendly, charming and smart. She’s also ambitious, fearless and a born leader, and she won’t stop until she gets what she wants.”

Tamara’s age and race fit with her being Marian’s daughter. It’s been 29 years since Emma was born, plus it took a few years before Rumple was able to successfully con Regina into casting the dark curse. So, if Tamara’s parents are Marian and Robin Hood and they left the EF for our world about 30-32 years ago, that actually fits perfectly with Tamara’s age. They had access to magic, so it’s possible they also could have realm jumped or they might have stolen a portal.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Also, why else would the producers introduce new characters like Robin and Marian this late in the season, especially in a Rumbelle episode, unless they tie back into the overall main plot?

Agreed! This was one of the major issues I had when we first learned Robin was coming in 19, way back in Feb I think. It made NO sense to introduce an iconic character this late in the season. So yes, there had to be more to the story and it has to fit in with the major arc of the last half of this season.

In terms of the timing, Tamara looks to be around 30. If her parents left the EF for our world just after Robin healed Marian, then actually, her age works perfectly with the timeline. The baby could easily have been born in America a few years before the curse was even unleashed. Her parents might have immigrated to a Land Without Magic simply to escape whatever evil had plagued Marian (perhaps it was dark magic). Also, Tamara’s casting call was very specific:

I wonder if their leaving has something to do with the wand. I just posted this idea over in the episode synopsis for 220, but here it is again. The issue with the wand Robin stole being Ella’s Fairy Godmother is the timeline. But what if Rumple stole the wand from the fairy initially, Robin and the Fairy strike a deal (he gets the wand back for her and she creates a portal to let Marian and Robin escape to our world) and THEN, several years later, Rumple kills the Fairy and take the wand back for good, thus why he has it in QoH.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I wonder if their leaving has something to do with the wand. I just posted this idea over in the episode synopsis for 220, but here it is again. The issue with the wand Robin stole being Ella’s Fairy Godmother is the timeline. But what if Rumple stole the wand from the fairy initially, Robin and the Fairy strike a deal (he gets the wand back for her and she creates a portal to let Marian and Robin escape to our world) and THEN, several years later, Rumple kills the Fairy and take the wand back for good, thus why he has it in QoH.

That could work. I always wondered if there was a difficult history of conflict between Rumple and Cinderella’s fairy godmother, which is why he killed her. He called her “pure evil” which seems to indicate she had crossed him before. While we know Rumple hates fairies in general because he feels the Blue Fairy stole Baelfire from him, there might be a more specific history with Ella’s fairy godmother that we’ve yet to see. The wand Robin Hood stole looks exactly like the wand Ella’s fairy godmother had, so maybe there was an ongoing feud between this fairy and Rumple, which is how Rumple had her wand to begin with. After Robin got it, he might very well have given it back to Ella’s fairy godmother, who has the same skin color as Marian and could have been her sister. (I have a feeling that fairies could be born from human parents, much like witches could have muggle parents in the Harry Potter saga).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Also, it would explain how Robin knew about the wand in the first place. And maybe the Fairy enchanted his arrow and bow with magic so it would hit its target.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Also, it would explain how Robin knew about the wand in the first place. And maybe the Fairy enchanted his arrow and bow with magic so it would hit its target.

Yes, all of those little puzzle pieces fit pretty well together into this larger theory of interconnectedness between characters.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Also, it would explain how Robin knew about the wand in the first place. And maybe the Fairy enchanted his arrow and bow with magic so it would hit its target.

Yes, all of those little puzzle pieces fit pretty well together into this larger theory of interconnectedness between characters.

Huzzah! *watch it all be wrong*

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

😆 I know, right?

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[angiebelle]

Marian looks quite light skinned to me- olive toned, but still light. Both Robin Hood and Marian appear way too light to produce a child as dark skinned as Tamara in my opinion. Not to mention, I don’t like the idea of these two good characters producing such a diabolical offspring.

Somewhere, I’ve read an interview from Adam and Eddie in which they very adamantly stated that Tamara is from our world. They said she’s American.

This isn’t that one, but it’s similar.
http://storybrookemirror.tumblr.com/post/47415592482/sarah-chalke-devon-writes-my-drawn-out-once

I know, I know- I’ve been wrong before: I didn’t think “Her” was important. But I will be very surprised and a little disappointed if it turns out Tamara does have a FTL connection. She’s far more interesting as a real outsider who has discovered magic.

I also think it would be a bit strange to have yet another character that escaped into our world before the curse. It’s not supposed to be easy to get to our world.

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