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March 31, 2015 at 11:21 pm #300462Reginastwin3Participant
So I am not sure what thread to put this in.
Question: Do you think Robin Hood is considered a Hero or Villain? I only ask this because if they do do a scene where the Villain’s get their happy ending, what side does Robin Hood fall? He said in a past episode that he did a lot of horrible things in his past. What were they besides stealing?
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March 31, 2015 at 11:29 pm #300464KebParticipantI think Robin Hood is a hero, as long as he abides by his code…which he threw in the trash when he knowingly, intentionally cheated on his frozen wife with Regina.
But cheating in this show has never exactly been grounds for falling on one side or the other (see Snowing cheating on each other–though less knowingly–in S1).
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March 31, 2015 at 11:34 pm #300466Reginastwin3ParticipantHave we got a RH flashback? I mean I just want to learn more about their view of his character. Also Snowing’s cheating doesn’t count for me because she did not know who she was, and RH, well he thought his wife was dead for years…but it still is weird that he cheated on her would be murder (unless of course Zelena was playing Marian this whole time.)
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March 31, 2015 at 11:38 pm #300467KebParticipantWe’ve seen RH in two flashbacks. In the first, he was played by Tom Ellis instead of Sean. That was 219: Lacey. RH stole a wand from Rumple to save Marian’s life, and Belle helped him escape Rumple’s wrath. Marian was pregnant with Roland at the time. We also met the Sheriff of Nottingham in that ep.
The second flashback we’ve seen RH in (besides those in the missing year, that is) is from Wonderland, I forget which episode. It was about Will stealing from Maleficent, and emphasized Robin’s code, which we also encountered in their brief scene together in 4A.
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March 31, 2015 at 11:45 pm #300468Reginastwin3ParticipantOh that’s right. Well it would interesting to see this upcoming ep. So if he is hero, if there is an AU spin where the heroes are villains andy he villains are heroes, that would make an interesting story for Regina and Robin Hood.
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March 31, 2015 at 11:58 pm #300470WickedRegalParticipantI think Robin Hood is a hero, as long as he abides by his code…which he threw in the trash when he knowingly, intentionally cheated on his frozen wife with Regina.
Ummm….he technically followed his code because he was going against it by not living by it, one of his codes were to live truthfully and honestly which he said so himself in 4×11 when he was talking to Regina about teaching Roland, and he recognized that he was basically going against his own code by staying with Marian, which would be living a lie, aka, against his code.
Marian was pronounced dead…in the real world or the EF, that would classify that marriage as being undone and Robin would be a widow. It’s not his fault Emma dragged Zel-Marian to the present.
Robin followed his heart which led him to Regina…thus he followed his code.
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April 1, 2015 at 12:09 am #300471KebParticipantYou can twist it as much as you like, but the going back and forth was not fair to either Marian or Regina, let alone his son.
Presuming the Zelena bit is truly what happens/ed TLK not working sits better with me. BUT. RH had every reason to believe that his wife was alive, had declared repeatedly that he still considered himself married to her, and still chose to sleep with Regina while his wife was frozen-but-not-dead.
He said himself that he wasn’t abiding by his code when he went to Regina that night, BY DOING SO.
This isn’t just my perspective–it’s what Robin’s perspective is on what he’s doing in the moment. This is what they showed Robin Hood choosing to do.
They may yet spin it to be less horrible, and I’m starting to see how they might, but these are still things that RH did, just as much as the things that David did to hurt MM under the Curse.
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April 1, 2015 at 12:38 am #300476SlurpeezParticipantIf Belle can have an affair with Will and still be a hero, then I think Robin Hood can sleep with Regina and maintain the coveted title of hero. In the case of Robin, it will turn out not really to be an affair, seeing how Zelena was pretending to be Marian, thereby letting Robin off of the hook. Robin is still free as a bird to date Regina without committing adultery. However, he thought he was married when he slept with Regina, so it’s not exactly honorable of him to go against his own code. I guess that puts Robin in the same camp as David Nolan, when he was cursed to believe he was cheating on his fake wife, Kathryn, with his actual wife, Mary Margaret. However, Robin Hood was not cursed when he thought he was cheating on “Marian” and so he comes off even worse than David Nolan did in S1.
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April 1, 2015 at 1:11 am #300477Reginastwin3ParticipantI’m just curios about their relationship IF things get turned upside down for the Heroes and Villains.
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April 1, 2015 at 7:42 am #300482SweetsParticipantI guess that puts Robin in the same camp as David Nolan, when he was cursed to believe he was cheating on his fake wife, Kathryn, with his actual wife, Mary Margaret
To further show how ludicrous the idea of marriage in the EF vs Storybrooke is, technically isn’t David Nolan still not married to Mary Margret? They are different people and according to US law they aren’t married. We know they are married, but what do the records say? Maybe they fixed all of that when Snow’s curse was cast.
Ummm….he technically followed his code because he was going against it by not living by it, one of his codes were to live truthfully and honestly which he said so himself in 4×11 when he was talking to Regina about teaching Roland, and he recognized that he was basically going against his own code by staying with Marian, which would be living a lie, aka, against his code.
I agree with this. It all seemed to be a case of higher truths. His initial reaction is, oh I made this vow I have to follow it (regardless to how unfair it is to all parties involved). I can understand him doing some soul searching and coming to a different conclusion about what his code really meant to him. That seems human.
As far as being a villain, I think Robin Hood represents someone who is on a ‘redemption’ arc. We just haven’t seen what he was like beforehand. With Regina we’ve seen her at her worst and now she’s starting the journey Robin Hood has already been on.
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