Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Three › 3×02 “Lost Girl” › Round Table for Lost Girl
- This topic has 0 replies, 1 voice, and was last updated 11 years, 5 months ago by
HappyEndings.
-
AuthorPosts
-
October 12, 2013 at 11:58 am #215346
HappyEndings
SpectatorWhy do you think it is so important to the Lost boys that Emma and Rumple dwell on their abandonment histories? What is Pan’s motivation?
Chris: Emma and Rumple are, I think, the two biggest threats to Pan and their pasts can be used to trip them up. Pan and the Lost Boys need them vulnerable, maybe out of a childish need to not be alone in their own grief or it’s part of the game. Perhaps it even feeds into the wild magic of Neverland. Would it be quite so untamed and untapped if everyone there were happy?
Amy: I feel like the orphan similarities in all of these characters is the key point. They are all “lost.” We have Pan and the Lost Boys, Emma, Rumple, and Henry; all who were given up/orphaned.
Chris: Also Neverland is the embodiment of the abandonment and neither Emma nor Rumple has really dealt with the repercussions of their respective abandonments.
Sam: This connects with Pan’s own abandonment issues. I think that’s pretty obvious. It’s what drives and motivates him, and how he continues to gain popularity with The Lost Boys. Snow also fits here. She, Emma, and Rumple all have something in common and that is being abandoned or orphaned. This trauma informed who they became as adults. Emma is very independent and unable to connect to others. Snow’s pain over losing her own Mother is what drove her to break her promise to Regina and share her secret with Cora, which started the whole chain of events leading up to the Curse. Rumple’s fear of repeating his father’s actions lead to his becoming The Dark One.
Jackie: I believe these abandonment obsessions will lead them to their ultimate goal. It will get them to Henry. They’re the only two people that have that ability. Emma’s magic will come from working through her sorrows resulting from her feeling that she was rejected and she’ll be much stronger in the end. If Emma does not come to terms with it, she will fail miserably. This past episode mentioned that Snow and Charming put her through the wardrobe to give her a better life. This and a few other items make me think that the storyline will come back full circle to Season One and the beginning of that: the wardrobe, who went through, and both Gepetto and Rumple’s story.
Sam: I think Pan’s actions also relate to the overall theme of “Belief” that is being played out this season. It’s been established that magic in Neverland is based in belief. In this week’s episode the writers took a turn towards the idea of belief in yourself and how that gives characters the strength to overcome obstacles.
Teresa: This brings us back to Henry.
Amy:Henry is the only one who, despite all these circumstances has retained a true believer’s heart. I think Pan needs that belief to “fix” Neverland, to bring back the good and the hope to what has become a nightmare island.
Sam: And Pan will try and weaken each of them by using this weakness to break their beliefs in themselves.
Jennifer: I think the force behind the island (whether it’s Pan/The Lost Boys or something else that they are agents for) gains power from children’s loneliness and their memories of abandonment. It’s also why Rumple is physically unable to separate himself from the doll – the power behind the island needs to feed off his abandonment pain. Pan’s motivation? Misery loves company – and forcing that same misery on others makes them easier to control.
Was Pan lying about Henry not being able to forgive Emma?
Gareth: Pan is playing his game of divide and conquer. Placing doubt in Emma’s mind is a key tactic. No doubt he will be doing the same to Henry. I do think that there are grains of truth in everything Pan says though, and it is that possibility that will eat away at Emma.
Mauri: Of course he was lying. In the first episode of the first season Henry said to Emma, “I know why you gave me up. You wanted to give me my best chance.”
Chris: At this stage in the game, yes I think Pan was lying. I do not think Henry has been with Pan long enough for any doubt to creep in. Even at eleven he shows a remarkable capacity for forgiveness and he does seem to understand why Emma gave him up in the first place. His is the heart of the truest believer; it’ll take more than a few nights to break that belief.
Sam: Yes. Pan is playing game and I don’t believe a word he says.
Amy: I think Pan has been corrupted by hate and anger. He believes that Henry will not forgive Henry, but I sense he will be proven wrong.
Jackie: Who’s to say he was necessarily lying? Henry’s far more accepting about being adopted than Emma, but I’m sure he still asks questions about it to himself. I don’t think he’d ever let Emma know that though.
Laura: Yes, he was lying, it would take a lot more than a few days to make Henry give up hope and write them off as having abandoned him. He’s a lot stronger than that, and has the strongest sense of pure belief.
Teresa: That’s how Henry won me over. He has become one of my favorite characters.
Jennifer: I wouldn’t say lying. I’d say he’s giving an opinion based on his personal experience and translating that Henry. Pan definitely doesn’t view what he’s saying as a lie. I also think the force behind the island will do what it can to corrupt Henry so he can’t forgive, and Pan knows it. But he also knows that Henry is The Heart Of The Truest Believer. That will be a difficult heart to corrupt.
Was that truly Belle’s “Spirit” traveling to Neverland or was it Rumple’s subconscious?
Check the rest out at :http://www.onceuponafans.com/lost-girl-ouaf-roundtable[adrotate group="5"] -
AuthorPosts
The topic ‘Round Table for Lost Girl’ is closed to new replies.